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In the news:  Russian governemnt officals it has been revealed have resorted to
indecent liberties in that they as a group body have planted sound recording devices
as well as video recording equipment not just in hotel rooms but in public bathrooms.
The Russian head of security claims that these measures peculiar as it may seem
are there for the utmost safety concerns at a time when international guesting is expected
to be in high volume due to the Olympic games which are hosted by the Russian federation.

But Clarance Kookivitch a well known activist and director of archives at the Center For Sexual Freedom Foundation based out of San Francisco California USA raised clear toned questions ,Clarance asks., just who are those who's those Russians employ to keep watch with wide open ears ? It seems said Clarance such a watch & listening operation will attract
the worst of the worst predator wise on both ends of the operation as it is a well known fact that predators love to take incredible chances and are known to hold political positions or are in ways politically connected or find their way into job positions that put them close to activity they are always in pursuit of and seemingly above reproach. In effect Clarance went on to say it is indeed a two sided coin same on both sides and so the question must be asked,

Who are the whos who are watching the whos who are looking for the whoevers who may be up to no good ?

Clarance Kookivitch referenced the bathroom ordeal in Russia to cops having been planted in public bathrooms in San Faracisco in the 1950's there to arrest homosexuals
on the charges of indecent liberties.

Kookivitch went on to say Putin speaks as though he has a handle on the mordern changing world form the prospective of a man of the world in 1952 who's outlook has never changed and remains ingrained in cold world beliefs and hypocricy.

Brush your teeth with vodka when in Russia says Clarance Kookivitch.
But befor you do says Clarance ask yourself this question:

Who are the who's who are watching those who's who are watching those whoevers
who's doings may be the undoings of whatever those in the Russian government are
doing . We know what they are doing but why do they do it ?



Have yer say in the comments section where there are no cameras !
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You can only hope can't ya  Rolling Eyes  What a mess the worlds in ! I despair sometimes I really do Neutral
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Secretary of state Kerry seems to see it in steps but the nature of the game in play has taken on new dimensions,grant it the Kremlin has not stated the the key points of  the outer deimension's which as of yet are under construction. However as a result of the fast pace of the escalations on the ground in Ukraine ,clearly the outer dimensions are visible.

It is therefore impossible to stay with the game in steps because in order to keep the pace in the nature of this game it is necessary to stay at least three steps ahead of the action at the same time remaining on the defensive where the opposition executes counter steps from both positions. There is no division here where one side handles Ukraine's temp. government prior to elections and the other side handles pro Russian Ukrainian peoples revolt. 

It is clear the elements at work in the application of those counter steps are out of control form both positions,pro Russia and united Ukraine, as it seems and as it is.

Aside from the usual Russian hard line approch there seems to be somewhat of a hint in the air coming from Russia that contrary to popular belief ,there is no clear cut plan of action inso far as how far Russia may go in territorial expansion. This is not to say there is no general outline ,certainly there must be, but ,there is no set plan of action. Which means the situation as it is in Ukraine has actually escalated out of control. Furthermore the so called advisors on the ground in Uktaine regardless to what side they advise for are in effect mucking it up even more than it already is because those in advisiory positions do not advise for controlers, they simply advise for those who seem to offer greater gains. So Ukraine is in a state of total revolt completely lacking leadership.
And everybody is scrambling. 

This could mean Russia may actually have a plan in the works to pass that ball around the court and that means each player will be accountable for steps taken,although the game changer is a one team effort-hence pass the ball around. ,.Russia thus far has acknowledged Ukraine cannot resolve it's issues itself.what goes without saying is that Russia has no real solution either.  As far as as Russia's economy ,business is the economy and again Putin is no business man. And that is why the shadow power circle was called into the Kremlin. One thing is for sure and that is Putin has no interest at all in putting the Russian people back into those bread lines like it was before the break up of the Soviet Union.And do not think for one minute that as an issue does not haunt Putin .He  seem's strong and confident in his position as a power leader,he must seem so,that is why they put him there,.But he is not all powerful and he answers to a group body.Which means Putin is not the top CEO with the controling shares in Russia's corporate empire.CEO's are bought out,voted out, or forced out by corporate raiders, Politicans are simply removed, for whatever the the Russian translation of impeachment is. 

This is not to say the situation will escalate to what that is, but worst case scenarios are always on the table when political /military strategies are on the board.

There is far more to this than meets the eye.
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Thank you for taking the time to write that very detailed account. I read with interest.

Maybe your in the wrong job ! Wink
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Rolling Eyes Yes I think Niagra has said it all with that account so now lets just see what unfolds in the coming hours, just maybe afew may start to come to their respective senses  and start talking for once, as for the observers on the ground like Niagra says they exasperated the situation really so best out for now
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Tracking the money, crime waves ,the CIA FBI advisor's on the ground. 

Straight back to the question:

Who are the who's who are watching those who's who are watching those whoever's
who's doings may be the undoings of whatever those in the Russian government 
are doing. We know what they are doing, but why do they do it ?
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[url=Putin's Human Rights Council Accidentally Posts Real Crimean Election Results; Only 15% Voted For Annexation Comment Now Follow Comments The website of the “President of Russia’s Council on Civil Society and Human Rights” posted a blog that was quickly taken down as if it were toxic radioactive waste. According to the Council’s report about the March referendum to annex Crimea, the turnout was a maximum 30%. And of these, only half voted for annexation – meaning only 15 percent of Crimean citizens voted for annexation. The fate of Crimea, therefore, was decided by the 15 percent of Crimeans, who voted in favor of unification with Russia (under the watchful eye of Kalashnikov-toting soldiers). The official Crimean election results, as reported widely in the Western press, showed a 97 percent vote in favor of annexation with a turnout of 83 percent. No international observers were allowed. This pro-Russia election pressure would have raised the already weak vote in favor of annexation. To make sure no one misses this: Official Kremlin results: 97% for annexation, turnout 83 percent, and percent of Crimeans voting in favor 82%. President’s Human Rights Council results: 50% for annexation, turnout 30%, percent of Crimeans voting in favor 15%. Putin’s people pulled this “rather unfortunate” report from the President’s Human Rights Council website, but council member Svetlana Gannushkina talked about this subject on Kanal 24 (as reproduced on Ukrainian television), declaring that the Crimean vote “discredited Russia more than could be dreamed up by a foreign agent.” Putin plans to repeat the Crimean election farce in the May 11 referendum on the status of the so-called People’s Republic of Donetsk. He will use the same tricks to produce an overwhelming vote for “independence” and a high turnout. The few international election monitors will object, but Putin counts on repetition of his Big Lie to convince his own people and sympathetic politicians and press in the West that the people of east Ukraine actually want to separate from Ukraine. Will the West let Putin get away with it again? Comment Now Follow Comments Print Report Corrections Reprints & Permissions Follow Comments]Putin's Human Rights Council Accidentally Posts Real Crimean Election Results; Only 15% Voted For Annexation Comment Now Follow Comments The website of the “President of Russia’s Council on Civil Society and Human Rights” posted a blog that was quickly taken down as if it were toxic radioactive waste. According to the Council’s report about the March referendum to annex Crimea, the turnout was a maximum 30%. And of these, only half voted for annexation – meaning only 15 percent of Crimean citizens voted for annexation. The fate of Crimea, therefore, was decided by the 15 percent of Crimeans, who voted in favor of unification with Russia (under the watchful eye of Kalashnikov-toting soldiers). The official Crimean election results, as reported widely in the Western press, showed a 97 percent vote in favor of annexation with a turnout of 83 percent. No international observers were allowed. This pro-Russia election pressure would have raised the already weak vote in favor of annexation. To make sure no one misses this: Official Kremlin results: 97% for annexation, turnout 83 percent, and percent of Crimeans voting in favor 82%. President’s Human Rights Council results: 50% for annexation, turnout 30%, percent of Crimeans voting in favor 15%. Putin’s people pulled this “rather unfortunate” report from the President’s Human Rights Council website, but council member Svetlana Gannushkina talked about this subject on Kanal 24 (as reproduced on Ukrainian television), declaring that the Crimean vote “discredited Russia more than could be dreamed up by a foreign agent.” Putin plans to repeat the Crimean election farce in the May 11 referendum on the status of the so-called People’s Republic of Donetsk. He will use the same tricks to produce an overwhelming vote for “independence” and a high turnout. The few international election monitors will object, but Putin counts on repetition of his Big Lie to convince his own people and sympathetic politicians and press in the West that the people of east Ukraine actually want to separate from Ukraine. Will the West let Putin get away with it again? Comment Now Follow Comments Print Report Corrections Reprints & Permissions Follow Comments [/url]
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