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| Subject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ? Tue May 06, 2014 6:13 pm | |
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beaver12 October 2013 top poster
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| Subject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ? Tue May 06, 2014 9:43 pm | |
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beaver12 October 2013 top poster
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| Subject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ? Wed May 07, 2014 1:43 am | |
| Odessa Massacre, take a look at the pictures on OCCUPY NEWS NETWORK just Google it and see what took place that is not shown on Western News channels in case it offends our delicate constitutions, Warning most of whats shown is pretty grim viewing so be warned. A run down for those who do not view these pictures, whats shown is a pregnant woman stretched across a desk strangled with an electric cord, numerous burnt and chard bodies laying on various floors but as is explained in the pictures and written commentary look closely most bodies are only chard around the head shoulders and hands which indicates that an inflammable liquid was used to murder these people not the result of the building being on fire itself, look around the bodies you will not see the surrounding wood work or any thing burnt that also indicates foul play, and what about those bodies that were shown with multiple gun shot wounds to the head etc, even a woman who only went into the building prior to the unrest to do her job of cleaning and putting out fresh flowers was caught up in this madness raped as her lack of underwear indicated and also set alight Barbaric to say the least, if this is the behaviour of the peoples of the Ukraine then I for one do not want to see Ukraine becoming a part of the E.U. what with this and the lawless far right activists antic's in Kiev, no way would I support a people who could resort to this kind of behaviour, keep our boys well clear of this its up to the Ukraine and Russia to sort out not us, I make my stand now on this issue im totally now apposed to the West becoming involved, if Obama wants to go against the Kremlin then he dose so with out my support after this, maybe if the German people stood up against what they saw happening on the German streets during Hitler's time then maybe Germany would not now be living with the internal shame and consequence of WW11. | |
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beaver12 October 2013 top poster
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| Subject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ? Wed May 07, 2014 3:18 am | |
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niagarafalls Website Admin
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| Subject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ? Wed May 07, 2014 3:35 am | |
| That seems more truth worthy. | |
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| Subject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ? Wed May 07, 2014 3:49 am | |
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beaver12 October 2013 top poster
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| Subject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ? Wed May 07, 2014 4:24 am | |
| I think that Goon in Westminster Cameron had best shut that mouth of his over Ukraine and pandering to Obama's whim's he dose not speak for me after this, I think the West has got this one wrong and Ukraine is just using the E.U. as for Obama and his cronies what's in it for him and the U.S. a chance to move ever closer to Moscow maybe, eye's on the Oil and Gas Maybe after first establishing a few Military bases in the Ukraine sign them up for Nato that's some thing that the Russians have all ready spoke on and have insisted that that would be a step to far for them to tolerate, yes there deffo is more to this than meets the eye of the general public of not only Europe but America as well after all the American people have eyes to, surly this would make them start to think wtf and start asking Questions infact insist on asking Questions of the murky goings on's of their Government and that independent answer to nobody organisation the C.I.A. after all its their men and women folk's boots that ultimately have to be put on the ground and their lives that are at risk not those in the White House all sitting there sipping their coffee's, like I said Not in my Name. | |
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| Subject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ? Thu May 08, 2014 3:41 am | |
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| Subject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ? Thu May 08, 2014 3:44 am | |
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| Subject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ? Thu May 08, 2014 3:46 am | |
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| Subject: kookivitch/Nuclear Ashworth Thu May 08, 2014 4:29 am | |
| http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/05/07/ukraine-crisis-putin-osce-idUKL6N0NT46Q20140507 Reversing out of the hardline, the stage is being set to pass the ball around court. Deal sweeteners have been worked out at the kremlin. Deal sweeteners are the language of business and the Russian business practice is not estranged to the process. Again ,Putin is no business man ,and so he stands to the advisement of those in Russia's shadow secret circle that know the ways of language at the tables where wheeling and dealing talks go down. Deal sweeteners are a direct reflection of sincerity inside the dealings and are applied in the process. You might call or compare it to little olive branchs used to smooth over the rough areas that turned into rocky roads from previous wheeling's and dealing's that went sour. Putin does not understand the process of inserting the language of business into the mix as he press's on in the dealings of what he himself calls ,the ways of the modern world. It is after all strictly business. And Putin is an old cold warriorian. He is learning how to tie it all together ,because flying by the seat of his pants is entirely too costly with far greater risks involved.Politics is business and business is politics. Putin want's both but is unfamiliar with the language of business and how it applies . For example, a deal sweetener in no way compares to a prisoner exchange such as it were where it all comes down to political wheeling and dealing. Business cannot be affiliated to that in any proven way for obvious business reasoning. Such as case forinstance is the dividing line between business and politics although there there is no dividing line actually. However in the business of politics there is a dividing line in language. It is a line that cannot be crossed. Putin has his own business arrangements ,but Putin has handlers handle his business affairs. He's the yea or nay guy in the action. So he has called in the tuitors . And so, he has been thoroughly briefed and prepared to talk in the language of business and in the politics of business to the order of global affairs in business and politics. And ALL THE KING HORSEMAN AND ALL THE KING MAKERS will wheel and deal as king horseman and king makers do . Never is it just one high on a horse . PR is just PR ,it isn't really real. It is strictly for show, like those pesky advertisements on the televison or the radio ,or on billboards or on the colorful packages,all about making the product appear to be far greater than it really is. Putin does not really ride into global talks shirtless high up on his horse.
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| Subject: kookivitch/Nuclear Ashworth Thu May 08, 2014 4:35 am | |
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| Subject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ? Thu May 08, 2014 4:42 am | |
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| Subject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ? Thu May 08, 2014 5:32 am | |
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beaver12 October 2013 top poster
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| Subject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ? Thu May 08, 2014 9:49 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ? Fri May 09, 2014 3:03 am | |
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| Subject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ? Fri May 09, 2014 3:14 am | |
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| Subject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ? Fri May 09, 2014 3:37 pm | |
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| Subject: Kookivitch/Nuclear Ashworth Fri May 09, 2014 3:58 pm | |
| I believe in snowden language that is intell- which comes from intelligence reports\ which are forwarded or communicated by intelligence agents positioned inside the action or other means of intell gathering such as satellite visual surveillance & audio visual . Apparently the cossacks are not very sophisticated agents and are more proned to brute force to the tune of shoot first ask not and tell nothing. So Russia is lacking up to the minute data input in all Ukrainian matters in the crisis. hummmmm, I think it is all leading up to the big meeting. Stand by, another ten day count down is about to commence. http://af.reuters.com/article/energyOilNews/idAFL6N0NU3TC20140508 | |
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| Subject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ? Fri May 09, 2014 11:56 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ? Sun May 11, 2014 2:46 am | |
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| Subject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ? Sun May 11, 2014 2:55 am | |
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| Subject: Kookivitch/Nuclear Ashworth Sun May 11, 2014 3:31 am | |
| The ten day count down has begun leading up to the next big shift in the ongoing crisis .Where it is about the Russian federation's stand off with world powers,it becomes moreso seemingly apparent that the so called advisors on the ground aka agents, have no ground to stand upon regardless to what side in the conflict they advise for. No doubt Putin saw vast oppertunity weeks back and over reached thereby doing damage to his credability within Russia's own. But that may be at this point in the crisis water over the dam.
Because if the Russian power circle's ,circle's meaning the bringing in of Russia's secret shadow circle, the money monger comptrollers, if they concluded the situation has spiroled out of control, than the next big meet is about passing the ball around. In short 40 thousand troops on the boarder ready to roll isn't going to roll over the problem or keep what is happening form happening- .
This as it appears is what it all leads up to. It can only get worse before it becomes possible to quash out the violence. The remaining question to that end is ,how will a joint arrangement be worked out to quash out the violence. Because the violence must be quashed out before it is possible to proceed with how it is the over all situation can be reigned in to some degree of unified satisfaction.
The two sided approch isn't helping at all. And the big upcoming elections in the Ukraine isn't the fix all.
Passing the ball around may by the way around the whole of it as it will get worse before it can possibly get any better.
And, it will happen in other countries as well eventually although it is happening already.
People call out to the world for help and those calls seem to fall upon deaf ears. Perhaps it is time some things are worked out in the global order. Hands on so to speak. One thing is for certain, Putin does know now that he never had the bull by the horns.
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| Subject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ? Sun May 11, 2014 5:12 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ? Sun May 11, 2014 11:10 pm | |
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