Subject: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ? Fri Feb 07, 2014 8:31 am
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In the news: Russian governemnt officals it has been revealed have resorted to indecent liberties in that they as a group body have planted sound recording devices as well as video recording equipment not just in hotel rooms but in public bathrooms. The Russian head of security claims that these measures peculiar as it may seem are there for the utmost safety concerns at a time when international guesting is expected to be in high volume due to the Olympic games which are hosted by the Russian federation.
But Clarance Kookivitch a well known activist and director of archives at the Center For Sexual Freedom Foundation based out of San Francisco California USA raised clear toned questions ,Clarance asks., just who are those who's those Russians employ to keep watch with wide open ears ? It seems said Clarance such a watch & listening operation will attract the worst of the worst predator wise on both ends of the operation as it is a well known fact that predators love to take incredible chances and are known to hold political positions or are in ways politically connected or find their way into job positions that put them close to activity they are always in pursuit of and seemingly above reproach. In effect Clarance went on to say it is indeed a two sided coin same on both sides and so the question must be asked,
Who are the whos who are watching the whos who are looking for the whoevers who may be up to no good ?
Clarance Kookivitch referenced the bathroom ordeal in Russia to cops having been planted in public bathrooms in San Faracisco in the 1950's there to arrest homosexuals on the charges of indecent liberties.
Kookivitch went on to say Putin speaks as though he has a handle on the mordern changing world form the prospective of a man of the world in 1952 who's outlook has never changed and remains ingrained in cold world beliefs and hypocricy.
Brush your teeth with vodka when in Russia says Clarance Kookivitch. But befor you do says Clarance ask yourself this question:
Who are the who's who are watching those who's who are watching those whoevers who's doings may be the undoings of whatever those in the Russian government are doing . We know what they are doing but why do they do it ?
Have yer say in the comments section where there are no cameras !
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Subject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ? Wed Apr 02, 2014 4:57 am
Subject: Kookivitch Clarance Wed Apr 02, 2014 6:20 am
Putin's struggles with the old vs. the new Russia. The old Putin, the new Putin and the some other guy Putin. Hard to tell sometimes what is coming from where or which one was that.
Perhaps the documentary will help bridge the gap ,watch with eyes wide open.All the way back to 1952 and on into the 80's -Where it begins and where it ends.It's what's go'en on.
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Subject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ? Wed Apr 02, 2014 6:41 am
It says here according to Clarance kookivitch, Now that you have had time to review the Marvin Gaye documentary ,it is time now to AD-DRESS the question (what is Putin doing and what will he do next ? )
You can look at it through ongoing circumstances and events as it so happens, you can do that. Or you can first look back in time ,back to 1952 and than imagine a collective mind set of the period. And you can dress that up to suit multiple scenarios. But if you really want to see exactly what the Putin collective strategy is ,all you need do is look closely at the segment of the documentary where Marvin Gaye as a child is ordered by this father the religous extremist preacher/cross dresser to strip down to his underwear shorts and made to stand there for hours on end, all the while his father poping in flagging his belt ,taunting the child by threat of administering a whipping ,known as the strap.and eventually administering a strapping or whipping.
Now than ,you must ask of yourself ,did the child know through past experience that the taunting by his father through the flagging display of the whip would inevitably turn to a whipping ? But of course that answer is yes.
But break it down and imagine all the lies and the deciet spilled out of his fathers mouth in the process, example telling the child this is an act of love for your own good.You must remember that words used through crule acts are as or more devistating than the physical pain inflicted .Phychological trumma. Ok so, It's about the long term psychological effects combined with the whipping which has both short term and long term effects or permenent, as was the case with Marvin Gaye.
Marvin Gaye's father was conducting psychological warfare and his offspring was the land grab in all the territory they would even come to know and settle in. That means the damages are permenant.There were two sides of Martin Gaye's fathers battle cry, one was the call to his religion and the other a calling out for his sexual identity. It was about his own inner conflicts with some revenge mixed in there. And so Marvin Gaye forced an end from where it all began.
As you know there is two sides to the conflict but really three. Martin Gaye's father's sexual identity is not just one but two seperate sides operating in tandem both connected as if connected at the hip and in individualality mode be he the preacher/father or the womans side in it. Since sexual healing was not obtainable for Gay Sr. ,power became the antidote.
If you really want to know what's go'en on in Moscow at the Kremlin ,you really have to watch the Marvin Gaye documentary very carefully ,every step of the way.
See the child stripped down knowing he were going to be terrorized by his father ? That is what's going on. It is psychological warfare ,that it is indeed. And that is why there is so much speculation as to what will Putin do next. And that explains all the lies and deciet . Same as the drug addict will do exactly what they say the won't do or would never do. That is the result of a drug called power. If Putin will fool around with the idea/notion of reaching out, than one must really ask ,what are they really reaching into and who are the who's who will pick up the pieces when it all comes down to what it must inevitably come down to ?
The Putinist's cannot possibly be sure through all their suspicions and paranoias exactly who those whos are among them. After all they are not really all in lock step even though it is made to look that way for propaganda reasoning, which is part of the psychological warfare tactic.
Ron Hubbard's church of scientology ,the brain washer weenie wackers do'en the weena wack through life.
Take a look at church of scientologies global holdings and you might catch a bit of a notion what's go'en on in the Kremlin in Moscow. And of course fallow the money trail.
OK so brain washing , but isn't brain washing also terrorism ? Think about it.
Martin Gaye must have figured out what it all comes down to in that it was the means to an end. He gave his father the gun because he knew he could not and would not stop himself form doing what he knew he was compelled to do. the message -do or die. An arsonist dealing with struggling internally with distructive thought process may leave a fire extingusher off in front of a house or business the arsonist may have slated for targeting. Left there in plain sight. Why the hell would somebody leave this off ,one might ask ? On one hand the arsonist doesn't want to burn down your house and maybe kill you in the process, but on the other the arsonist cannot stop those arsonist erges which become an overpowering erge the arsonist must satisfy. See, the preacher,the father ,the cross dresser.
So, what makes a predator a predator ? In some cases conditioning, influences and on and so on. But it all comes to one thing and that one thing is power.
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Subject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ? Thu Apr 03, 2014 7:24 am
They can remove the problem but not the symptom ,address the symptom but not the problem ,remove itself as the problem form the problem than demand answers ? How very nutso complicated.
This in your face approach Russia is spear heading is becoming a global fiasco. Iran,Serria -gas,oil ,those banks, trading goods for goodness sakes, gifting weapons, shunning the international community ,my oh my, reminds me of 1973 ,the silent standoff.
So Russia is putting all it's ducks in a line disconnected as it be. Symptomatic. Key word for the day.
Montreux treaty signed in 1936 -looking back at it.
Display of power, ship having an anti ballistic missile defence system .Imagine that old Russian 1952 mind set expressed through todays modern day weapons.There really isn't much room where it comes down to,- when push comes to shove ,is there ?
It seemed that way back in 73 too. But sometimes what it seems to look like isn't what it really is at all. Complicated it is indeed ,but as the saying goes,where there is a will there is a way. Imagine what that way is, can you ? Very difficult picture to paint. Everything is not dependent on one man's decision making process ever.
At the same time Murphy's law dictates that what can happen will happen. That's the symptom.
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Subject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ? Fri Apr 04, 2014 10:00 am
G.W. Bush put his FBI on Putin than practically,plesently painted his portrait presumably for pleasure in the artistic endeavor, presistently ,insistently expectantly assuming praise in one way or another. After all if Putin isn't with us than what ?
It's an angle ,how precise it is ,is a question the art critics cannot address.As Bush could or would say, it's all in how you see what you see. What do you see ?
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Subject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ? Sat Apr 05, 2014 11:11 pm
was interesting to note that in Putins macho pic's with his shirt of trying to show that he is a man amongst men doing what men do I noticed that he sported a crucifix around his neck very odd, I thought he was a die hard Communist or should I say he was an up coming rising star during the cold war era and all of the elite of that commi ruling party were supposed to be all Atheists so what's with the symbol of Christianity then, dose this show a side of him that has not been reviled as yet but by his wearing of said Crucifix hints very strongly he has another side to his personality there may be hope yet im thinking.
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Subject: Kookivitch Sun Apr 06, 2014 7:45 am
He walks a fine line very carefully and caters to influences ,some of which are of cold blood.G.W. Bush walked that walk and talked that talk and he too has his cross to bare. Bush looked Putin in the eye one day back there and decided Putin has a gentle soul. Bush may be more of the belief closer to the church of England and Putin more in line with the church of Rome. Bush said after he looked Putin in the eye he said, I trust him.
There is no way to tell what that means exactly although verification is always in the balance. However,the end of the cold war error was new beginnings ,therefore the establishment of trust at face value is what was required at the very least. Therefore, Bush took it a step further least we can say between his new found religous views to Putin's. new found religious stand point.
I remember a republican by party preference once said to me, he likes Bush, back around 2003,he went on to say,I don't know about his religion though.The republican is more or less a catholic by religous preference. So what he were indicating is up to speculation more or less.
I remember saying well you know there is a lot we don't know or know about . Isn't there ? We don't really know who really won the election ,could have been Gore. But that was water over the dam by then.
At some point back there in Texas Bush embraced christianity thus becoming a christian. Some people believed it was politically motivated, others didn't.At that time Bush was considered a republican candidate for the presidency. The Republican party heads were courting Bush back than. And of course the religious right wing represents a whole lot of voting going on ,not to mention volunteers at the phone banks and door to door canvasing.TV evangelist's and the religious lobbyists.Power in the numbers and money too.A whole of money too,- pouring into the republican coffers.
So of course that seems to leave room for plenty of suspicion. On the other hand if you look at the world becoming one big happy corporation,and the insanity of it ,greed ,so on, it is not so hard to believe one would come to believe there has to be more to it, because if there isn't ,than you know, there isn't any hope really.
Or so it may seem.
What we do know is that dogs come in all shapes and sizes which as it so happens, humans do too. And that I think is the beauty of it. Putin insulted Bush's dog Barney you know ! There may have been something sinister about that.
Corporate sociopathy is sinister too, isn't it ?
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