Subject: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ? Fri Feb 07, 2014 8:31 am
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In the news: Russian governemnt officals it has been revealed have resorted to indecent liberties in that they as a group body have planted sound recording devices as well as video recording equipment not just in hotel rooms but in public bathrooms. The Russian head of security claims that these measures peculiar as it may seem are there for the utmost safety concerns at a time when international guesting is expected to be in high volume due to the Olympic games which are hosted by the Russian federation.
But Clarance Kookivitch a well known activist and director of archives at the Center For Sexual Freedom Foundation based out of San Francisco California USA raised clear toned questions ,Clarance asks., just who are those who's those Russians employ to keep watch with wide open ears ? It seems said Clarance such a watch & listening operation will attract the worst of the worst predator wise on both ends of the operation as it is a well known fact that predators love to take incredible chances and are known to hold political positions or are in ways politically connected or find their way into job positions that put them close to activity they are always in pursuit of and seemingly above reproach. In effect Clarance went on to say it is indeed a two sided coin same on both sides and so the question must be asked,
Who are the whos who are watching the whos who are looking for the whoevers who may be up to no good ?
Clarance Kookivitch referenced the bathroom ordeal in Russia to cops having been planted in public bathrooms in San Faracisco in the 1950's there to arrest homosexuals on the charges of indecent liberties.
Kookivitch went on to say Putin speaks as though he has a handle on the mordern changing world form the prospective of a man of the world in 1952 who's outlook has never changed and remains ingrained in cold world beliefs and hypocricy.
Brush your teeth with vodka when in Russia says Clarance Kookivitch. But befor you do says Clarance ask yourself this question:
Who are the who's who are watching those who's who are watching those whoevers who's doings may be the undoings of whatever those in the Russian government are doing . We know what they are doing but why do they do it ?
Have yer say in the comments section where there are no cameras !
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beaver12 October 2013 top poster
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Subject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ? Tue Apr 29, 2014 5:16 am
Yeah I looked at that vid, Bad moon arisen and was about to bung it up myself on here but then decided against it and bunged through the grape vine instead, yep well lets see owt new yeah we have it seems dispatched four Euro fighters Tornados and some ground staff Lithuania I think they went to close enough to let them Ruskies no they are there they will join any other aircraft that may have been sent that way by other member states so the build up is in progress if but slow ahead for now, just might be making a few eye brows to twitch a little in Moscow but I don't think they are breaking sweat just yet
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Subject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ? Tue Apr 29, 2014 6:58 am
We must be diplomats Mr. Beaver the Russian's are watching us. Mr. Beaver means everybody is sweating and somehow soon, greeting hands must work out a solution that is good for everybody ! The tension of all this is entirely too cold .
The clock cannot be stopped or turned back and this time smashing ordeal has got to cease for the greater good over all .
It good policy that way !
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Subject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ? Tue Apr 29, 2014 7:07 pm
I agree, but the modern idea of good common sense as in the distant past is in short supply those that be in positions of sticky fingers on buttons and triggers are blinded to the belief that only they are in the majority and only their way of thinking matters, the common man/Woman/Child are only pawns in the end game and so are of no consequence to the over all out come of things, its down to people power to make those numb skulls come to their senses, but first the people need to sort out the far right extremists that are hell bent on ratchetting tensions up to the extreme thus making an unfriendly outcome likely, in the mean while further sanctions are being applied slowly but surely which add to frustrations all around.
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Subject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ? Wed Apr 30, 2014 7:37 am
The pro Russian gangs with the help of those cossacks are parading their capters like trophies ,themselvess too for he world to watch. Real olympian performances World class looters they are.
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Subject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ? Wed Apr 30, 2014 8:03 am
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Subject: Kookivitch/Nuclear Ashworth Wed Apr 30, 2014 8:48 am
Well, world news net isn't going anywhere other than speculation.so as the saying goes :::
In the news today it has been speculated by our spectacular speculation team here at the Sexual Freedom foundation,- that Putin has called to order his inner circle this time including his secret pact ,those of power that remain in the shadows. It appears from a spectative view point that all options are on the table including deal sweeteners one of which is Edward Snowden.It is speculated they are talking about returnng to the tables to act out some real talk with the G8
Putin is considering talks that may bring temporary relief to the stand off although the Russian Federation hard line approch must apply face saving measures so that it seems not weak on the world front.
To achieve the perfeered desired outcome at the negoiciation tables it is speculated, certain members of Putin's inner circle and his secret order have introduced the notion of adding in deal sweeteners along with hard line wheelngs and dealings at the table talks, to bring the U.S. in closer to the proposal/proposals which many members of the Russian federation power circle believe the U.S. will flatly reject before the terms are even layed out in full, it is specualted. But certain Russian federation inner circle advisors believe the deal sweeteners will bring those in attendence at the table talks closer together thus creating a very particular allure because there are deal sweeteners enough for all. In the end result it is speculated the Russian insiders believe when the talks conclude ,it can work it's way out to everyone's bennifits under joint instruction.
What that all means from a spectulative stand point or otherwise is anyone's guess ,but it may be there is no guessing which is why the situation is what it is,. However it just may be that Russia plans to pass the ball around in the court thus giving all players a chance at a shot ,thereby making the win a team win.
Everybody looks good and there is no further need of this cold talk about sanctions .
As far as what the plan is, we'll have to wait until after the the emergency secession has happened to find out the results.
And for Snowden, that could mean a little unexpected flight time. We may never know what all of the deal sweeteners are, however there may be some apparent signs for those who read into signs.
Clarance koovivitch is the director of archives at the center for sexual freedom foundation based out of San Francisco ,California USA. Nuclear Ashworth is the center for sexual freedom foundation's staff reporter and is a standing member of the Keepers Of The Archives at the center for sexual freedom foundation.
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Subject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ? Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:57 pm
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Subject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ? Thu May 01, 2014 3:28 am
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Subject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ? Thu May 01, 2014 8:37 am
Mushroom skies utube
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Subject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ? Thu May 01, 2014 8:49 am
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Subject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ? Fri May 02, 2014 5:01 am
Snowden it seems those representing him believe his place in moscow is fairly secure with his Temporary right of stay up in June. But ,they fail to state certrain truths about unrest and uncertainty in the Kremlin. Which means they fail to see Snowden becoming a bargining chip in a plan to rachet down the anti where the chips are piled high thereby creating an opening for game changers .In the process a revision of penilities becomes the topic at the tables.
Subject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ? Sat May 03, 2014 3:42 am
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Subject: Kookivitch/Nuclear Ashworth Sat May 03, 2014 4:43 am
In todays news,The Russian Federation has called for an emergency meeting /secession to order, or by demand calling on the powers to reassemble at the tables . It will appear from a speculative view point that the most recent escalation of activities in the Ukraine have reached the point of having boiled over on the verge of total civil unrest leaving the situation what could amount to civil war and mass revolution in the Ukraine days not weeks away.
It may be the fast acting Russian inner power circle calling in the shadow members into an emergency secession ,shadow members being Russian powerfull and politically influencial that are more interested in the business of politics and less interested in the daily business of the Kremlin.
It is not known as of yet if all aspects of the deal sweeteners have been worked out in full in the Kremlin but we do know they knew full well time was short because the Ukraine situation proves to be an impossible task for Russia to get a harness around it itself.
Putin who is x KGB only knows one way about it, but he does understand risk factors. The risk factor is incalculable by all measures known in moscow's power circle. Putin brought everybody in because even to Putin's most trusted hard liners -old soviets, the situation is spiraling so far out of control that it doesn't matter how many eyes Russia has on the ground in the Ukraine-,there is no real way to tell,control or predict what can or will occure from one minute to the next. And where there is more to it than meets the eye has become the higest priority requiring all hands on the table face to face. That's the Kremlin.
The Russian hard liner approch has been set to motion with the demand of world leader talks, a emergency secession.
If Putin is ready to talk business having been advised by the secret shadow power circle all of whom are always more interested in business,than let the talks begin. Putin likes to show his hand in business through business ventures, but he knows he is no business man and he knows not the ways.
Apparently he is not so good at playing the cards either.At least he knew when to seek some help.
We will see how it all plays out.
Might have jumped the gun ,pardon the pun just a bit, the emergency secession was called at the United nations where upon the Russian federation ambassador to the U.N. released the Russian hardliners P.R. views which of course made world wide headlines in the news. Heated is was .They need more time at the Kremlin.
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Subject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ? Sat May 03, 2014 4:52 am
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Subject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ? Sat May 03, 2014 4:25 pm
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Subject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ? Sat May 03, 2014 8:11 pm
The pace is going to fast for all parties to explore any avenues that can or would lead to the negotiation table nether Putin nor Obama or Merkel etc can as it seems make their voices heard and if they are heard looks like no one is listening to them, are they hell bent on civil war or what well on another note watching the BBC New's this morning they were going on about the state of the Russian economy seems that for several years now their economy has been going downwards and is increasingly looking a little worse for wear, so the extra burden of sanctions far from being insignificant as Putin put it would be an added burden on a slippery slope of the Russian economy were will it all end I haven't a clue keep watching and see what happens, to me it would seem that tensions within the Ukraine between ethnic Russian and the rest of the Ukraine populaces was boiling under the surface long before Russia invaded the Crimea, should both East and West keep well back and allow the Ukraine to resolve it their self's with no interference from any one else, if blood is to flow in a civil war then let it be so, just like we did with Oliver Cromwell etc and Russia did and even the good ole U.S.of A did so why would they be any different mean while the World looks on.
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Subject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ? Sat May 03, 2014 9:22 pm
And Mean while the World Looks On-Indeed! Powerless to do anything more.
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