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beaver12 October 2013 top poster
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| Subject: Re: IF I was in charge of GB..... Mon May 19, 2014 7:25 am | |
| Excessive Greed of the few,at the cost to the many, seeing as how its the many who do the work so the few can bath in luxury without further bending of their backs as it were in the beginning of their enterprise's, I feel it should become law that all successful employer's be made to pay its employees a wage that reflects their Business success due in no short way as to the employers hard working employees, thus in doing so keep a happy work force which would pay for itself time and time again as well as maintaining the employers high standard of living due to him/her for being in control of their individual enterprising Businesses, and all fair Taxes paid to Government coffers, and M.P.s should only be paid like any one else a set wage pluss expenses and claims for such to be scrutinised to verifies their claim to justify the expense, set apartments should be set aside with in Government buildings for when M.Ps have to stop over for all night sittings or when called to Westminster for any thing else this would save a vast amount of cash because this would then end properties being bought at tax payers expense thus lining M.Ps pockets from property owned in London this would end one avenue to riches for our Government ladies and Gentlemen among other things like making them pay for their own meals entertainments, and drinks like any one else would have to, in other words end the Gravy train forth with. Over seas travel on so called fact finding visits is another one, they can do their fact finding on Government computers they don't have fly around the World with their respective entourage, and staying in 5 star Hotels eating the very best and supping costly wines like no tomorrow at again Tax payers expence, Trade deals can be conducted with out all that boys club attitude, im sure if looked at with a more indepth view a lot more waste could be roped in and monies saved spent where it should be spent on the welfare of the peoples of this Country | |
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pandora007 Moderator
Posts : 980 Join date : 2013-01-10 Age : 69 Location : South of The Equator
| Subject: Re: IF I was in charge of GB..... Mon May 19, 2014 9:30 am | |
| The way it is now is that ( because so many people WANT TO WORK)
JSA claimants are working almost full time for their JSA - tis amazing the number of companies taking "advantage" -
healthy company profits are not enough it appears
zero contracts are becoming the norm - and those not accepting a zero hours contract have their benefit stopped.
If these trends continue - I see a time when "normal/low pay jobs" will be undertaken by the unemployed for their JSA - | |
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beaver12 October 2013 top poster
Posts : 3845 Join date : 2013-04-01 Age : 73 Location : nottingham
| Subject: Re: IF I was in charge of GB..... Mon May 19, 2014 9:25 pm | |
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pandora007 Moderator
Posts : 980 Join date : 2013-01-10 Age : 69 Location : South of The Equator
| Subject: Re: IF I was in charge of GB..... Mon May 19, 2014 9:44 pm | |
| is this how communism evolved -
but became tarnished -
particularly in china/Russia
every system has its flaws - seems like every system requires a scapegoat -
but you'd at least hope that life improves - but only for a certain few it seems | |
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beaver12 October 2013 top poster
Posts : 3845 Join date : 2013-04-01 Age : 73 Location : nottingham
| Subject: Re: IF I was in charge of GB..... Mon May 19, 2014 10:15 pm | |
| Yes it was how Communism came into being Mrs P, the idea was good but the working of it not, even distribution of wealth to the masses through state controlled industries and farms etc, good workers became Hero's of the state but were paid the same as some one who could not be bothered to bend their backs and put the effort in yet were paid the same as some one who got a sweat on giving it 100% the same could be said about our state of affairs here now that Cameron is trying to change, by this zero hour working and getting of your bums and doing some thing for your Benefits we did have a problem with people relying on the state for a living not bothering to get up and look for work much preferring to just sign on and collect state hand outs when there was nothing wrong with them that would prevent them working for a living even turning up their noses when work was offered, yes it had to change I admit that it had to what im saying is that I agree that those idle lay a bouts that take advantage of the state should be made to get of their respective assess yes,but by making every one except zero working hours is an unfair way of doing this and is open to exploitation by dodgy employers, im advocating cracking down on those that defraud the system both in Government and out and make every one accountable both the Government in Westminster, local Government, Employers, and the General public at large, as for Employers yes they deserve a higher standard of living after all its them that have created jobs through starting up their Business which in turn gives the public a chance of getting a paid job, they have invested time, money, and in many instances risked their very home's to get their Business off the ground, but what im saying is once that Business has grown and has become successful to the point of expanding into the supper league like how Richard Branson's Business has then I think its kind of unfair that its workers should not share in the companies success by it reflecting more in their pay cheques end of the month and in Bonuses, as an example of gross un fairness just look at the Banking sector, look at those vast Bonuses paid out annually to the few at the top of the table, should not that money be more evenly distributed among the grass root workers not used to boost and all ready bloated bank account of just one man | |
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pandora007 Moderator
Posts : 980 Join date : 2013-01-10 Age : 69 Location : South of The Equator
| Subject: Re: IF I was in charge of GB..... Mon May 19, 2014 11:05 pm | |
| It would appear that the rich bankers - rather than share - prefer to lay off workers.
It would make sense to allow workers to buy shares in their company's - but with sometimes zillions of shares available - a normal paid individual - would not see much in pocket profit.
I have an issue with druggies/alcoholics being classified as "sick" - the benefit rate is HIGHER - surely offered rehab and return to work would be more beneficial. | |
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beaver12 October 2013 top poster
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| Subject: Re: IF I was in charge of GB..... Fri May 23, 2014 2:40 am | |
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beaver12 October 2013 top poster
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pandora007 Moderator
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| Subject: Re: IF I was in charge of GB..... Sat May 24, 2014 6:52 am | |
| I fear no gains in London though - where the majority population "fear racism" - how the hell are we supposed to feel - when we're the minority. | |
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beaver12 October 2013 top poster
Posts : 3845 Join date : 2013-04-01 Age : 73 Location : nottingham
| Subject: Re: IF I was in charge of GB..... Sat May 24, 2014 10:26 pm | |
| Well its been afew years since I was last down in London iv never really took to London all ways made me feel closed in like, was all ways glad when I was storming of back up the M.1 Motor way Northbound or the A.1 North bound and from what I saw it made me feel that I was in a foreign Country in a lot of areas that I visited, London is known for it being expensive living and attracts so called high fliers to its financial sector etc and other high profile peoples of the World who own properties etc so its no wonder that in the different boughs of London you get those who support the Blue Tories then there's the high immigrant population that has grown out of control over the years pluss the poorer Londoners that have increasingly found it harder and harder to climb that ladder of life and now find housing cost have gone through the roof and out of their price range, so makes sense that Labour holds sway in these areas Ukip is a new kid on the block and most of their support now centres from North of London and onwards if Ukip wants London's support also then its got to go on the campaign trail down in the smoke abit more than it has, but the recent success and publicity that Ukip has just had will be opening afew eyes down that way now as they see that the other party's are now on the defensive even though they have all gone out their way to rubbish the party in reality they all fear this new kid on the block because they are saying what the people at large want to hear, and if they can and do what they say and let the people see that they have listened to their fear's and acted on their behalf then its good by to the old blue and red and Hello to the purple boys and Girls they just got to deliver on what they preach that's all. | |
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pandora007 Moderator
Posts : 980 Join date : 2013-01-10 Age : 69 Location : South of The Equator
| Subject: Re: IF I was in charge of GB..... Sun May 25, 2014 1:44 am | |
| I think I mentioned I joined BNP - their "mandate" was all my way of personal thinking.
I sort of think UKIP is tory with a small c. For all the stories of them being racist - I don't believe it. | |
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beaver12 October 2013 top poster
Posts : 3845 Join date : 2013-04-01 Age : 73 Location : nottingham
| Subject: Re: IF I was in charge of GB..... Sun May 25, 2014 6:53 am | |
| Mrs P yes I think most are but there are also those that were from the other parties UKIP is made up of those that are disaffected by their individual parties lack of leadership, mandates, and willingness to do as they say and listening to the voice of the people which none of them have resulting in people shying away from all the main parties in drove's, they all know what is afflicting this Country and they all know the way forwards to cure this problem yet none have shown a willingness to do so hence the emergence of UKIP and a promise that it would if but given that chance to do so, they have to prove that their words are one's that they will keep if not then they to will go the same way as the others as people look for a party that will deliver, B.N.P is saying what people want to hear if the truth be known but I think the image they have have put a lot of people of mainly I think to some of what people have seen of them acting like a mob of thugs which has tarnished what they stand for BRITAIN FIRST. plus they have fallen foul of those that are trying their best to tarnish any party that threatens the main one's with calling them and putting that R. Tag on them the well known RASIST card R. if people learnt to put this play ground name calling etc to one side and concentrate on the issues that give the people of this Country concern then maybe this Country would then get some where, there is nothing Racist about being Concerned about this uncontrolled mass immigration that has been taking place that makes this Country's peoples feel like foreigners within their own land and see their jobs first being offered to the immigrant first and at a reduced rate of pay which our beloved Government has taken upon itself to turn a blind eye to, is it no wonder people are now saying that they have had enough and are saying so with their votes. the people are also saying that the E.U. is taking the pizz to with us so there is a call to stick a finger up to them to enough is enough and the only way it seems to make our leaders see this is with our votes as they certainly don't want to listen to our voices,this is our Country and we want it BACK. | |
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pandora007 Moderator
Posts : 980 Join date : 2013-01-10 Age : 69 Location : South of The Equator
| Subject: Re: IF I was in charge of GB..... Sun May 25, 2014 7:02 am | |
| Personally - I wouldn't be mean - I'd give 28 days to settle their affairs - and a choice of destinations by plane - with a pilot. I'd only confiscate the pets - families should stay together. | |
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beaver12 October 2013 top poster
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pandora007 Moderator
Posts : 980 Join date : 2013-01-10 Age : 69 Location : South of The Equator
| Subject: Re: IF I was in charge of GB..... Sun May 25, 2014 8:17 am | |
| Did'nt the majority hold british passports ??? | |
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beaver12 October 2013 top poster
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| Subject: Re: IF I was in charge of GB..... Sun May 25, 2014 11:04 pm | |
| That's just it Mrs P Britain had an Empire that stretched right across the Globe, now they all have their own independence and we in our infinite wisdom formed a Common wealth of former dependant Countries with our Queen as Head of this Common Wealth of Countries and through this looks like the known World seems to hold a British pass port oh lucky us I don't think and it looks now like the known World wants to come and cram its self into this tiny Island of ours, kind of reminds me of that old Cadburys Chocolate advert i.e. ( There is a whole pint and a half of cream in every half pound bar ) I often think back to my former youth and the places I frequented once lush green grass and trees with clean running streams now a concrete jungle with untidy unkempt junk filled gardens Britain's changed, its population has changed its attitudes and way of life has changed, manners have changed, the whole of what I once knew as a boy since the end of WW11 has changed the 50s/60s saw the start of this change and we the people have let our Government steadily ruin what was once a Great Country into some thing far removed from its former self, and now they won't to hand over our Beloved Country to Europe what Germany could not do with the bomb and bullet our Government is allowing to happen with out a fuss and also allowing Britain to become a back water and human junk yard for the World im at the back end of my life but I fear for what those that come after me will have to be a part of in the future, that is if this Country has a future as its fast being eroded out of existence. | |
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beaver12 October 2013 top poster
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stumpy
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| Subject: Re: IF I was in charge of GB..... Fri May 30, 2014 5:14 pm | |
| didnt ukip do well? If they get in (if) and they take England out of Europe, WHO will stand with England. Before Heath came to power we seemed to do okay with the Commonwealth, would we be able to re-strengthen ties again? The thing that I wonder about is if we did come out of EU the same people that should be sent back home will still remain, and those that have come from other European countries and contributed to the English system and adapted to the English way of life. In Denmark there’s about 3000 English people, many have been here for years, in England just in London alone there’s over 50,000 Danes that that have jobs, and many more on education. If England kicked them out and then Europe did the same to the Brits living in Europe, it would be sad, but there would be a lot more jobs going for Brits in England. | |
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