How do you view Islam in the modern world.

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 Well once again we have reports coming in via the News of yet more murder by Islamists,this  time in Kenya 59 comfirmed dead so far,a group of Al Shabab Islamic fighters forced their way into a shopping mall in  Kenya told all those of the Islamic faith to leave unharmed then proceded to throw granades and fire bullets at those left,at the same time yet another Christian Church in Pakistan was the target of yet another bomber wonting to go to paradice  by taking the lives of those who believe in some thing other than Islam,even those who do believe in islam are not safe as  we continuely  hear of attacks on Mosques that offer a slightly differing view of Islam to others,namely Sunni as apposed to Shia  and when ever any one confronts them about it they come out with oh they are not true Muslims,Muslims don't do that they believe in Tolerence,peace and love to all of what ever faith they come from  yeah right  pull the other one why don't yer  all I can see is that Islams only contribution to the modern world is Death,and misery,mayhem on an ever increasing scale,should Islam be a Band religion in Europe,should it be classed as a threat to peace as we know it in Europe  we all see most days reports of attacks on those who practice Christainity  or any other religion,and we hear of threats to any Muslim who wonts to convert to another faith other than Islam,and by and large they get away with it,what if the tide is turned and they get a backlash and Mosques are attacked and destroyed across Europe and beyond,and those of the Muslim faith are targeted by those of other faiths as well as those of no faith at all,what would their reaction be if they were treated as scum like they seem to think every one else is  how would they like it,if they became the victims instead of the perpatratoers .

 well we see some opposition to them already in France, Germany, Holland etc and to be Honest I cannot blame them,iv even watched some videos of them and their antics across the pond in the U.S.A. so even they will soon  be experiencing trouble soon, well they already have haven't they, Trade Centre, and the Marathon etc that's just the tip of what they can expect if they to stay complacent and think they are untouchable because they are not, I see that the Islamists are already making their presence known in Canada just a hop skip and jump from the Good ole U.S.A

Well perhaps this is the slow progress to the end of the world...as it says in the bible...famine, pestilance and war followed by Armageddon when hell freezes over, well the world is already turning into hell and the famous red button will be pushed...bye bye world.

 well as for that famous red button, when I was in training and we were going through Nuke and Bio chemical warfare proceadures like getting our Noddy suits on  that's what we called them don't ask why I aint got a clue we just did  they use to tell us that the best place to be in the case of a nuke strike was right underneath  one, cos then you would not suffer or feel any thing, you would just cease to exist as for those Noddy suits we had to get them on in double quick time,i forget now how long they gave you to do it,but it was not long,and most of the time we did not make it in time  as for the combi pens that they gave you,i all ways held suspicions about those,and  just what they contained that we were  suppose to inject ourselves with.

Cyanide   

As I've said before my late stepfather was in the R.A.F for most of his life, he was squadron leader, when he retired from the R.A.F he worked for the Home Office.

He told me that every Governmental building had body bags stored and every employee was given a pill to take if that ever happened, even the Royals have it and my stepfather wouldn't joke about a thing like that.

Cyanide is quick to act with the right dose.

      
Those combi pens were suppose to be antidotes to help you if you were exposed to chemical attack   cyanide   we did not need cyanide,we had a mag of 7.62 or 9mm that did a good job of things if needed L.G.

Oh well, perhaps the same courtesy didn't apply to the Armed Forces, so you'll have to frazzle with the rest of us   

  All together now one two three
there will be rather large Mushrooms
over the sandy desserts of Arabia
if some one gets that bomb   
just you wait an see
there will not be any blue birds
flying south for winter
not even just Mohamed
His Mosque and wife
and children 1.2 and 3.

On the news it said a British woman was among the terriosts

 
Stumpy the wearing of the face veil as you say is not stipulated as a must have garment in the Koran, from what im aware of myself when iv looked into the Koran on line, and yes the Kenyans have said that one member of the Islamist gang was a British woman thought to be the Widow of a 7/7 London bus bomber, also the Kenyan spokes person said it was believed that up to 3 more of those Islamist could be of American origin, if so then it would appear then that now America is now exporting Terrorism, home grown Terrorism, so they better look in within their own communities cos the Terrorist threat has finally come home to roost, so they can look forwards to a few more attacks from those that live amongst them same as we do over here, it was reported this morning on BBC News that a poll taken says that 1 in 4 people now view Muslims as untrustworthy and view them with mistrust, to be Honest im not to surprised about that, lets face it, going around blowing them self's up on our streets, running sex gangs with vulnerable  young girls, drug trafficking, preaching hate, shouting down our returning Troops,disrispecting fallen Soldiers on their return to our land, exporting Terrorism from our shores, to mention just afew dose not bode well for coexistence does it, so mistrust is obvious.

I find the womens faces being covered unsettling because I like to see a persons face if I'm speaking to them, we don't only communicate by speech but also by body language and facial expressions, they smile then you smile, if their face is covered their identity and facial expressions are hidden, doesn't exactly make a relaxed conversation does it?

Ppl wearing crash helmets and hoodies have to remove them when in a shop...the same should apply to all.

  Its recon that's how the Old Bin man,Bindy larden  escaped from Tora Bora dressed in a Hijab and face veil so as to fool troops on the ground which it did, so just shows how it can be used for other reasons also, mind that face veil must have suited old Bindly man larden  he should have kept it on   I wonder if he nipped into the ladies Tora Bora ladies powder room before he left  
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