Subject: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ? Fri Feb 07, 2014 8:31 am
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In the news: Russian governemnt officals it has been revealed have resorted to indecent liberties in that they as a group body have planted sound recording devices as well as video recording equipment not just in hotel rooms but in public bathrooms. The Russian head of security claims that these measures peculiar as it may seem are there for the utmost safety concerns at a time when international guesting is expected to be in high volume due to the Olympic games which are hosted by the Russian federation.
But Clarance Kookivitch a well known activist and director of archives at the Center For Sexual Freedom Foundation based out of San Francisco California USA raised clear toned questions ,Clarance asks., just who are those who's those Russians employ to keep watch with wide open ears ? It seems said Clarance such a watch & listening operation will attract the worst of the worst predator wise on both ends of the operation as it is a well known fact that predators love to take incredible chances and are known to hold political positions or are in ways politically connected or find their way into job positions that put them close to activity they are always in pursuit of and seemingly above reproach. In effect Clarance went on to say it is indeed a two sided coin same on both sides and so the question must be asked,
Who are the whos who are watching the whos who are looking for the whoevers who may be up to no good ?
Clarance Kookivitch referenced the bathroom ordeal in Russia to cops having been planted in public bathrooms in San Faracisco in the 1950's there to arrest homosexuals on the charges of indecent liberties.
Kookivitch went on to say Putin speaks as though he has a handle on the mordern changing world form the prospective of a man of the world in 1952 who's outlook has never changed and remains ingrained in cold world beliefs and hypocricy.
Brush your teeth with vodka when in Russia says Clarance Kookivitch. But befor you do says Clarance ask yourself this question:
Who are the who's who are watching those who's who are watching those whoevers who's doings may be the undoings of whatever those in the Russian government are doing . We know what they are doing but why do they do it ?
Have yer say in the comments section where there are no cameras !
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Subject: Nuclear Ashworth /snowden reviews Sat Apr 19, 2014 5:53 am
Reviews are flooding in and it all looks pretty mixed and mixed up.There is much comment from wannabe geeks ,geeks that in their imginations they are super geeks and plenty of lower level geekathoids. Some of the geeks have come to believe that snowden is living within a bubble and he is out of touch with reality outside his bubble although he can see it out there in full view,but he can't touch it or connect to it in any real way.
His shield inside that bubble is the principle and principles he says is his guide as would be one's conscience.But the geek world questions snowden's personal belief system and many are coming into the belief that snowden's personal belief system has always been flawed/misguided, out of though with reality what have you.The geeks are stopping short of the opinions that he is nuts.That or crazy like a fox.
If it's crazy like a fox, than what he says or gave up, or placed to risk,that being his individual freedoms and choices, he will have you believe he sacrificed all that in the over all interests of his principles that are at the top of the order inside the bubble which is the containment shell for his belief system and all that goes down in his head. If than it's the fox,it wasn't a sacrifice, it is more of a gamble for the greater gain vs all that is lost. So the geeks seem to be indicating it may have more of a trade off rather than principle.
That means geeks are coming to believe that snowden in his head thinking in his bubble introverted as it will seem ,he believes he stands to gain considerably in the long run.That would make Russia his finnal destination as it were planned.
The geeks see him as a puppet .Least wise according to reviews ,that is what it seems to indicate.As you may or may not know, geeks have their own information highway non associated with main stream media.
If it's all about what comes out of the bubble, it has zero credibility.(IT)
Nuclear Ashworth is the staff reporter at the Center For Sexual Freedom Foundation based out of San Francisco ,California USA .Nuclear Ashworth is also a standing member of the keepers of archives at the foundation . San Francisco is a small island city built on seven hills ,some say a small island city at times nobody listens to . However it's impact on the world forever reachs greatness and it's friends are all over the world at large.It is by all means a city ahead of it's time and at the same time keeps pace with time in the now and in the future and carefully preserving it's historical context.
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Subject: kookivitch/Nuclear Ashworth Sat Apr 19, 2014 4:44 pm
The BBC has it rounded . The worst case scenario and at best inbetween so on is geek talk amongst geeks in geek forums, some of which are not easily located.There has been numerous discussions about snowden's bird sitting on a fence ways about waiting for the most oppertune moment to swipe out the most data,that and his changing jobs as well as his spotty collage training and tainted qualifications that were seemingly over looked- disregarded.
Some geeks suspect he was either a plant of some type in kahoots with some news agencies-at worst or spying for, perhaps, Russia all along- The view points drift off of course into conspiracy theories. Other geeks believe his talents were /are actually quite limited and his ego took off on him taking snowden over on the flip side, /stark raving wackomaniac believing he is on a mission. Some see him as a hero ,others as quite niave.
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Subject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ? Sat Apr 19, 2014 7:28 pm
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Subject: Kookivitch/Nuclear Ashworth Sun Apr 20, 2014 5:44 am
Those Russian fly overs must be bringing back good old memories of some of those good times back there during the cold war for the old timers still active. From down in the archives : There was this old world war two destroyer ,a navel war ship about up for decommissioning at about the hight of the vietnam war.
Suddenly the ship received deployment orders and it was sent over to vietnam as part of the navel task force. This was to be it'a finnal deployment prior to decommissioning. Quite the shock to the crew.
The old ship completed it's mission and was inroute back to it's home port in preperation for decommissioning and the ships captian had the look out's scanning the sky's for Russian/Soviet migs ,those pesky Russian's are quite notorious for doing those nosey picture taking fly overs so's they can see what you got and try to figure what yer up to. They look for additional stuff too, objects that were fitted on board for particualr reasons.
Day's passed and no sign of soviet migs in the sky's, the ship's captian was becoming somewhat un-nerved over it, this was a vintage decorated war ship that fought in sea battles during ww2 and those Russian's surely wouldn't have the audacity to neglect this fine ship of it due glorious viewing.
Another day passed and still no Russian migs over head. The ships captian sat in the captian's chair on the bridge sipping his coffee ,clearly he were comtemplating those ruskies ,he must have been.The captian turned tword the bos'n mate of the watch than said, go and get me the bull horn ASAP.The Bos'n complied to the order. Upon return to the bridge the Bos'n handed the bull horn over to the captian and the captian took hold of the bull horn and than walked over to the middle window and opened it.
There were two deck seaman out on the forword weather deck's working on the anchor chain's ,what is called periodic maintnance,painting ! The captian hit the on trigger than raised the bull horn up to his mouth directed it out the window and angled downward in the direction of those 2 deck seaman. The captian ordered one seaman to go down to the mess decks and find a sizable box- tell those cooks I sent you ,and make haste. And you there, he said to the second seaman,go and get a broom and bring up to the forward gun mount,and make haste.
The two deck seaman took off running in the directions so ordered. One returned with a sizable empty box and the other with a broom. The captian ordered the seaman with the box to turn the box upside down and place it neatly front center of the forward gun mount..The seaman complied. The captian ordered some minor ajustments and when the box appeared to the captian perfectly situated,he ordered the bos'n mate to get inside the box. Than he ordered the second seaman to give the broom to the seaman inside the box. The second seaman complied. The captian than order the seaman inside the box to use his knife and carefully cut a hole in the box dead center ,perfectly round and perfectly fitted for the broom stick.The seaman complied. When the hole was cut to the captian's specifications ,the seaman relayed the hole has been cut up to the bridge.
The captian than gave the order, through his bull horn of course ,he ordered the seaman inside the box to push the broom stick through the hole . The seaman complied, pushing the broom stick through the hole to reach maximum length. The captian ordered the seaman to pull back the broom stick about eight inchs.The seaman complied. The captian ordered make that seven. The seaman complied.
The captian than called down to engeneering and ordered up some greese to be taken up on the weather decks and given to the bos'n mates in front of the forward gun mount. The engeneering watch officer sent up a fireman with a can of greese . When the greese arrived the captian ordered one of the bos'n mates to secure that object in front of the gun mount with that greese and make certain the greese isn't visable. Than he ordered the other seaman to get the hell out of the secret installation as he is not cleared to be in there. The seaman got the hell out of there not having a clue to what that ment.
After the box was secure with broom stick sticking out, the captian ordered the box and the broom stick be paiinted gray as per, naval regualtions. And than he scolded those seaman because seaman know everything must be painted gray.That object whatever it is ,isn't regualtion . The seaman complied than reported with ever it is ,is now gray.
When the box and broom stick was properly painted gray,the captian ordered the seaman off the weather decks.
The next morning two Russian migs flew over the ship taking pictures of the mysterious secret addition mounted in front of the forward gun mount on the old vintage ww2 highly decorated destroyer class war ship returning from it's finnal mission .
The captian with hat on was sitting in the captian's chair on the bridge, coffee in hand smiling.
The flying bridge watchs both of them reported Russian migs flying over head. Yes of course said the captian.
Who was pulling a snow job on whom ?
Snowden is all over the news, the Ruski's put him there. The Ukrain has shut down the operation until after Easter Sunday and the only one that don't know what it's all about is Snowden because Snowden thinks it's all about Snowden.
And that's the name of the game.
The geeks say they don't teach cold war history like that,that's interesting !
You see it's really quite simple if all you want to do is create something larger than life. A box ,a broom stick ,some paint and some greese.
Snowden got greesed.
And the Ukrainian situation is temporarily deflected. A kind of a deflection that came at little to no cost for Russia. What you call a freebe.
You really had to notice Putin smiling at Snowden's dead serious questions. But what do you think made Putin smile ?
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Subject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ? Sun Apr 20, 2014 5:52 am
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Subject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ? Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:23 am
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Subject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ? Sun Apr 20, 2014 9:03 pm
Martini shaken not stirred
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Subject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ? Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:29 am
That's it, shake it up. You figured it out !
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Subject: Kookivitch/Nuclear Ashworth Tue Apr 22, 2014 6:13 am
The article hits on the cold truth about a whinny snibeling cry baby attention seeking geek. To say he's in way over his head is far too mild a way of putting it. This guy is baby chicken little on steroids. Chicken little,(the sky is falling the sky is falling).
Let's look at a juvenile delinquent day by day passing by a fire alarm station who feels sensational erges to pull that alarm. The erge becomes stronger and stronger and consequences seem to fade away into the obyss. The erge becomes the thrill and the perptrator becomes imerged in all the chaos a false alarm will cause.
Nonsense you might say,how dare you reduce what this is and all about down to an act of juvenile deliguenicy .
Well, it's like I said, Snowden had no real plan ,did not carefully think it out step by step, he simply decided ,this is what I'm going to do and he did it. About like the juvie who pulls the fire alarm /false alarm than simply run's off. Sometimes they get caught,sometimes they don't.
So, we have plenty of home spun ready made so called understandings about bad things kids sometimes do. There are things in it we tend to over look. One is the power in it, the other is overpowering.He got himself by choice, no doubt it was the allure he was attracted to,into a field that is known to have a high rate in the burn out factor.Ok' so the geek saw himself as a super geek, being tough as nails, a real bone head prodigy.
But now he's not so sure about himself or how he did what he did, and the real reasons behind why he did it.
If you look at the revenge motivated arsonists over thirty years of age, the socioath, you see it is all about revenge for sake of revenge itself, that and the power in it, and the overpowering erges they cannot quash out.
It's the old saying two wrongs don't make a right, isn't that what we tell the kids.?
Snowden is in it for glory and somehow he thinks or feels he is being robbed of his thunder. Basically he pulled another fire alarm but this time he isn't sure of himself or why he fallowed through with it.. So he tells himself it didn't turn out the way he hoped it would. To begin with he pulled that alarm than ran off without a plan and his free wheeling method isn't working. He's not flying by the seat of his pants anymore, he is grounded, but in his head he still thinks he is a high flyer. They say in the study of criminal sociopathy nothing v\can prepare one for the things the sociopaths will tell you, or admitt to ,you can study them to no end know their patterns well, but they will take you by surprise. In this case, the powers that be in Moscow most likely firured with all in what they/Putin is dealing with ,global affairs, Putin needed a surprisingly good laugh, all he had to do is contain it. However the smiling surprise just had to come out. And he did address Snowden's questions, but what he was thinking might even be funny to some extent .
Snowden by now has seen himself in that interview over and over again and he has to know his face and his body language did his talking, his mouth was saying something entirely different.
He didn't pull that one off.It is not about allegiance for Snowden anymore, it's about his providers, and his faithfullness belongs to his providers who all happen to be in Moscow .He may have come into the awareness that the staged event was staged in the way it went down so that Snowden could provide a service to his providers. Kind of like the easter egg find. A little humor for Putin at a time when they are hard pressed for entertainment. All Putin had to do was hold up to the act.
Perhaps Putin will allow Snowden to do a horse back riding photo opp. Snowden high up on a horse in the Russian great outdoors, just for laughs.
Clearly you can see the media is scrambling to form logistical views that may catch your eye ,perhaps get you to weigh it out,it is six of one or a half dozzen of the other. Snowden is either niave or he is with the Putinist's.
Back in the 1950's early warning systems were under development, some people were constructing their own bomb shelters in case of nuclear attack. Are those Ruskies brilliant ? Or do they think the global eye is short sighted ?
To Snowden it is all about Snowden,after all Snowden is just a geek.The other guy ,the one who Snowden may suspect is stealing his thunder is a very different topic to cover.
But what is this thing really ?
Well in short it is trickery.
Check this out -than think about mass media world wide, utube everything about instant global news ,think about as you ponder the tube,
Subject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ? Tue Apr 22, 2014 4:51 pm
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Subject: Kookivitch/Nuclear Ashworth Wed Apr 23, 2014 4:28 am
Why not look at different angles in it, this one is completely inside the box and a bit short sighted ,projections through short sightedness ,well, fall short.
Subject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ? Wed Apr 23, 2014 7:44 am
The news keeps flooding in. As the count down continues the weeks are back behind leaving just but days to zero minus .The road remains rocky, the current seems to gain force ,so it may seem.
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Subject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ? Wed Apr 23, 2014 8:57 am
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Subject: Jimy Carter's concern is ligitimate/RE :kookivitch/ Nuclear Ashworth Wed Apr 23, 2014 9:40 am
but the money brokers backed by the media mongers are moving to maximize that take. The Putinist's are moving in the direction of surpressing informational flow through-out Russia, back to cold war error propaganda . Putin already tried reaching out with his fake arm and hand with his real arm and hand behind his back.
As the count down continues it will be somewhat of hard call as to what the intention will be on Putin's stand at the hour of blink as it draws near.All of which is folly for the media to milk the cows with.
Putin is what you call a hard read, but what it comes down to isn't really hard to read into. Every balancing act has it's risk factor and that one thing is for sure.Looking back at it, the Putinist's believe everything that can be done has been done to minimize the risk factor. But the surroundings of uncertainty is taking it's toll.It is Russia's dark shadow over the entire inside of the Kremlin.But it cannot leak out.