Will Scotland break with union.

  Next September the people North of the Boarder will get the chance to have a vote as to weather or not to remain with the rest of us or not and go it alone,the News has been full of the four's and against Mr Salmon the S.N.P leader is full of it and makes no bones about it thinks it will all be plain sailing for Scotland and has promised  just about every thing there is to offer to the electorate of Scotland in his efforts to win a yes vote and a break from the Union    the people of Scotland must now look deep within their selfs and decided one way or another, and I hope they look deeper into how their side of the boarder is going to be run and payed fore if they do vote to go it alone, they got to weigh up the advantages and not over look the disadvantages of staying united or make a break into the unknown   well all I can say is I hope what ever the outcome I hope its the best one for Scotland, but I will say is this, our lot down here lording it in Westminster and so called Governing us and some times, well quite often really making a right pigs ear of things are any thing to go by then good luck to you, but many of those same goons in Westminster in high office are also some of Scotland's  maybe future leaders as many are from Scotland and Wales for that matter, so take a good look and see just what you will be getting for a yes vote, maybe not a lot of real change, might even be worse who knows, well if the vote is a yes then Scotland will be a separate Country by 2016 March time  and you can have your Westminster M.P.s back to   then we down here have got to be on the look out for home grown buggers to do the mucking up of our Country to take their place, mind saying that from what iv seen over the years looks like we down here have every chance of having a prime Minister going by some name like the Right Honourable  Mr Abdul Patel  Gunguret  or some thing to that order a true blue blooded English man if ever there was one who will promise a Mosque near you very soon in the future  then again might be better to just let Brussels rule us and let them muck us about cannot be any worse can it. 
oh and as a passing note about the oil fields out in international waters I might add,they have started giving up the Ghost cannot be all that many good years left in oil production new fields have to be found and brought on  tap,who knows they might even be found if there are any to be found in the sea or land of merry old England

Who cares their Scottish! 

 ^^^^^^ Sassenach   

The Scotsmen are daring....no pants on under their kilts even in Winter!

I like the Scottish and Irish ppl, they're straightforward and tell it like it is 

 Yep and History says that the first Hock eye ever uttered by a Scotsman was really more a Och yeah when a Nickerless  Kilted Scotsman sat on a Thistle high on a Hill and was  Heard  by the Romans advancing North for battle   it was said and recorded by a Centurion at the time that the Scottish Battle cry was like a scream from Hell that so disturbed the Roman army that they stopped right were they were and Built the Hadrian Wall for protection from these obviously savage peoples of the North   ( no Scotsmen were harmed his wife put a plaster on his hows your father and he got better   )

i guess its up to the Scotts, with a hoots mon here and a hoots mon there

I wonder if Reiver's ever sat on a thistle? 

I've had the honour and so has Banjo of seeing Reiver in a kilt...the only downfall was that it wasn't a windy day in Brighton  

Not everyone in Scotland wants to break away from the U.K, but will it benefit the U.K if they do?

 Yeah L.G. I saw Reiver in a Kilt on facebook  when he met up with D.N.A. and she put some pics up, some knee caps he has  and I don think him sitting on  Thistle would cause him much discomfort, he prob would not notice, but he would deffo have to watch out for marauding moles look for some lob worms or they may think they won the lotto if he sat on their mole Hill   never seen a grown Scotsman cry have you

LG we could rent it to the Scotts earn some income from it,

 Stump/L.G. I don't think many would rush in with out weighing up the pro's  and Con's of breaking away from the Union, but if they do then its their choice to determine their own future not our's, I would still like to see them as a part of a Union and do their part as they all ready do with the running of this land for the Benefit  of us all.

Personaly I think the Scottish ppl would benefit from breaking away from the U.K, they wouldn't be under Cameron's thumb anymore for a start 

It may be down an illegitimate line, but David Cameron has royal blood in him, being a descendent of King William IV, who reigned in the early part of the 19th Century. William fathered no fewer than ten illegitimate children with the same woman, his mistress Dorethea Jordan. One of them was the PM's great-great-great-great-grandmother, which means that Cameron is a fifth cousin of the Queen.
Although illegitimate lines aren't in themselves 'posh', many of Cameron's ancestors on his father's side included the Countess of Erroll, who achieved the title through marriage. And if you think Cameron's surname sounds Scottish, that's because it is. His ancestors around the turn of the 20th Century built and owned Blairmore House, a country pile in Aberdeenshire. That was sold in the 1930s and turned into a private school.
Cameron also counts baronets in his family tree on his maternal side - his grandfather was Sir William Mount, 2nd Baronet of Wasing. Unfortunately Sir William only had daughters so the baronetcy was transfered to his nephew when he died. One of Williams' daughters married Ian Cameron, who was a wealthy stockbroker.

 Can any one reading this who come's from North of Boarder please lend Mr D.Cameron a Kilt please 

it's known that Cameron is of high breeding which to me accounts for his politics leaning towards the better off ppl and the rich, Cameron doesn't know what it's like to be hard up and struggling.

He proved that with his cornish pasty comment..."now we're just like you"

Did you know that last winter had the highest number of elderly deaths??
and I'm betting it's going to be high again this winter too.

 Yes I read that and saw it on the news about last years winter death rates for the elderly shocking that, and im with you on the possibility of even higher death rates this winter, i use my heating sparingly myself and take to wearing a good jumper and thermal under ware and iv put extra bedding on my bed as well   so if Scotland dose go it alone up there were its a dam site colder than south of the boarder is how are they going to tackle this problem this pig headedness that Cameron show's which i may add will im sure cost the Conservatives the next election and the Liberals for that matter, if Cameron's pig headedness is any thing to go by then im sure there are those with that same streak waiting in the wings to go sliding back North and state their Scotishness  to any that will Liston  and worm their way into Scotish politics and do as good a job as they have been doing this side of the boarder which could end up like the Titanic did hit an ice berg and start sinking  time will tell, not all doom and gloom though as Scotlands ship may miss that ice berg and make port safely fingers crossed,nothing is certain in this life is it.

Good luck to them I say if it happens.

As much as it pains me to say, Cameron's latest proposal to tighten up the benefits for   
migrants is a good step in the right direction as we know that some migrants come here soley to claim benefits, just a shame that he seems blinkered to those who are suffering with all the cuts he's made to the elderlies benefits.

It's the same as one parent families, a lot have ended up as single parents because their marriages have broken down...he needs to discern the difference between them and the young girls who purposely have babies to get council accommodation and live on benefits.
But he chooses to paint everyone except the well off with the same paintbrush.

There's so many ppl out there who have fallen on hard times through no fault of their own and they're decent ppl who are being forced to suffer. 

 Cameron is making the same mistakes that Thatcher made with the poll tax and taking the miners and unions on,and I can see him reaping the same fate soon to,and the Conservatives and Liberals will suffer for it long into the future, I wonder if Mr Salmon of the S.N.P is taking note of this and learning some thing of how to Govern and how not to Govern a people,there is a time to act and a time to liston and a time to reflect on issues that will or could influence the future

Hopefully they have and it could be that same reason for them to decide to try and make that break from the U.K.

 I wish ole pip was here i.e. the sexy Nun  No doubt he is all fore a break with the Union I think I would be supprized  if he wasn't, it would have been very interesting to have heard his take on it all,  


And just a Break from this Thread I would like to draw  every ones attention to the tragic lost of life in Glasgow when a police Helicopter fell from the sky when its prop stopped  whirring  and crashed into the roof of a Glasgow pub, may my Heart felt sympathy's  go to the victims family's  R.I.P.

Yes MrB - a tragedy indeed

(and not wishing to deter from your topic - the train derailment in new York too)

 Iv not heard of the derailment  Mrs P as yet, but I take your lead and send my condolences also to these victims family's also R.I.P.