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PostSubject: How do you stop high sea's pirate attacks    How do you stop high sea's pirate attacks  EmptyMon Oct 28, 2013 10:28 pm

cool2  Most Country's have sent war ship's to help stop Somali pirate's from attacking merchant ship's and privet boat owners of the African Coast, but are having little effect in stopping these pirate's from continuing to operate undeterred, the E.U. and the U.S. when they come upon them in the act only arrest them sink their boat and hand them over to the relevant authority's who in turn let them go free again, then those same face's are again picked up at sea doing exactly the same thing that they were arrested  for previously by some time's the same ship that caught them in the act previously. They know full well that they can act with impunity out at sea because they know that those who are supposed to protect those merchant ship's are in fact operating at sea with their hand's tied behind their back's so to speak, thus them being there in the first place is just a total waste of money and time as for what they are asked to do has little or no effect on deterring more and more pirate's from joining in on the free for all to raid ship's and hold to Ransom the ship and crew for vast amounts and treating badly those they capture, there have been call's for those ship's to be given permission to open fire when ever they see pirates at sea and sink them and sail on to leave the pirate crew to their fate, which would send a strong message back to the pirate base's, only this forceful act will have the effect needed to deter the act's of pirates from putting to sea in the first place, it is known that Groups like Al  Queda  are also involved in piracy as its a good way for them to fund their murderous activity, should we get real and give the go ahead to get tough with these scum of the sea's like they did in the old sailing ship day's when those pirates were hung from the yard arm on capture, or should we when a pirate boat is sighted get a Helicopter in the air and drop a big bag of cannabis and a few crate's of whisky or Rum down to them and let them all  get stoned and drunk and get lost or start fighting among them self's and   sink their own boat with no further effort on our part.     cool2 cool1 whistle
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PostSubject: Re: How do you stop high sea's pirate attacks    How do you stop high sea's pirate attacks  EmptyMon Oct 28, 2013 10:43 pm

since it is an international effort in dealing with piracy on the high seas I would imagine in time the problem will be irradicated;
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PostSubject: Re: How do you stop high sea's pirate attacks    How do you stop high sea's pirate attacks  EmptyMon Oct 28, 2013 10:49 pm

with angel3 ?? =Then don't think so.

 But with :sub: :btshp: :shter:  Then deffo  bat2
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PostSubject: Re: How do you stop high sea's pirate attacks    How do you stop high sea's pirate attacks  EmptyMon Oct 28, 2013 10:53 pm

:bmb: maybe yer has forgotten that the best way to stop something like that is to stop them befer they get started.

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operation night vision !
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PostSubject: Re: How do you stop high sea's pirate attacks    How do you stop high sea's pirate attacks  EmptyMon Oct 28, 2013 11:03 pm

No I have not forgotten but to do it that way need's a concerted effert by all Nation's as then you got to take on group's like not only Al Queda  but Al Shebab also and god knows  who else, and Africa is a Big place :bmb:
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PostSubject: Re: How do you stop high sea's pirate attacks    How do you stop high sea's pirate attacks  EmptyTue Oct 29, 2013 1:07 am

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Piracy on the high seas is still a crime - they operate at their own risk.
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PostSubject: Re: How do you stop high sea's pirate attacks    How do you stop high sea's pirate attacks  EmptyTue Oct 29, 2013 6:33 am

Rolling Eyes At the moment Mrs P. the only risk they have is not finding a ship to High Jack, but then again there is no lack of potential Targets plying those wave's with lucrative cargo's as well as ransom money cool1 and if no ransom money is forth coming for the crew's then well they can provide a little light entertainment for the pirate's during their time on land, i.e. brutalize, torture ,rape, murder but those that call them self's the Authorities' will not won't the General public to know about that will they.  cool2
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PostSubject: Re: How do you stop high sea's pirate attacks    How do you stop high sea's pirate attacks  EmptyTue Oct 29, 2013 7:43 am

News on operation night vision.:aero: 




Somaila's al shabab commanders killerd in air strike.[BBC] news.

An air strike in southern Somalia has kiled 2 senior commanders of the militant group al Shabab.
Residents have told the BBC the strike destroyed the vehicle the militants traveled in. 
The mission was carryed out by a drone :bmb:  but da drone didn't act alone !
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PostSubject: Re: How do you stop high sea's pirate attacks    How do you stop high sea's pirate attacks  EmptyTue Oct 29, 2013 9:00 am

:bmb:  And so in answer to yer question as to how do yer stop high seas pirate attacks ,dat's a relitively common logical military matter wut requires yer to think with yer boots on polished or not. 

Ok' so's over here >------------------->>>> on the tactical planing end in as I see's da map yer will notice if yer can imagine,  it says here how do yer stop high seas piracy? Ok, so's it really takes a field operator wiv a good pair of boots to figure's it all out. 

As I see it, it says here high seas ,so it is somewhat simple to see the best way to deal with high aspect in high seas is to get above it-the seas I mean. Yer's can too ,get above it that is.

So see here ,we have high seas which is similar to a ground approch although as yer know there is a distinct difference between a ground attack and a marine invasion. But da both tactics have certain similarites which through planning expectations arrive at the same end.

Ok's so add in air and now yer got air sea ground in tactical planning but how they arrive at the how to is really quite elementary don't you see, I say because the air attack offers certain assurances that da ground attack or the sea attack don't sometimes. 

And so's to simplify it ,if yer start on top yer above the ground ,yer target at da top of their order -commanders, and as yers know the rest is da trickle down effect ,as the say'en goes it rolls down hill ! :bmb: In da trickle down da planning tactics are about da same but it's covert so's da boots on da ground is invisable kind of like be'en there and not there. Dat's so's da bad people is never gonna see it coming.

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Oh, and on tactical edit :bmb: , the good part about them boots on the ground wut is invisable cause da boots ain't asuppos'ed to be there even if they is, even though yer ain't there although yer are actually ,yer don't need no can of polish on the count of nobody in high command knows anything offically or will addmiit to it about what is or isn't there on the ground ,so's nobody is gonna tag yer fer unpolished boots which is a violation of regulations.
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PostSubject: Re: How do you stop high sea's pirate attacks    How do you stop high sea's pirate attacks  EmptyTue Oct 29, 2013 10:47 pm

Rolling Eyes I get your drift on boots on ground but like not on the ground, and un polished boot's or even no boot's at all, kind of blend in with flip flop's or bare skin etc, intelligence is a whole different ball game as you know but a quire's an utmost important role in thing's, as those that organise those committing the Act's of violence generally don't tend to be any were near possible contact with those that mean to do them any harm or capture if they can help it, well they got lackie's  to throw their life's away load's of them, so while those lackie's risk life and limb out at sea or blowing them self's up or shooting up, those that give the order's and do the planning sit back  and wait for any booty to arrive and probly indulge in a few thing's that they tell those under Neath them that they can not do  like Knocking a few whiskey's back and indulge in a little play time with the local female's they boss about at will, Now those boots that are not there can pin point these Hero's and some time's take afew out now and then or pick some up and give them a Holliday some were a sea cruise on a war ship or an Island  5 star accommodation break some were that don't exist.cool2  as for the use of  the air Wink well those drone's are worth their weight in Gold so they are, why dose any one think there is so much shouting going on from Countries' like Pakistan etc over their use, it's because they are so effective and  they got no real answers to them, even if they bring one or more down it make's little difference they are only remote operated  aircraft and their cost is minimal, and they don't cost losing any men on the ground, thus these drone's could be used with great effect out at sea also, one ship with a few operators  commanding a few drone's could cover quite a large area of the sea lane's, multiply that by say half a dozen ship's each operating  say a dozen or more drone's and those drone operators to be given permission to take out confirmed sighting's of pirate boat's and the job's a good un tup sea's once again safer to sail in, but to do this every one has to come to an uniramous agree meant to at last take the kid glove's of and let the shark's tidy up after engagements. cool1
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PostSubject: Re: How do you stop high sea's pirate attacks    How do you stop high sea's pirate attacks  EmptyTue Oct 29, 2013 11:14 pm

:bmb:  Well, the first plan turned into a fire fight that yeilded little in the outcome. special forces -boots on ground were sent in to capture the commander militants or one in particular .
plan failed so's taking him/they out in a cotrolled precession pin point sky launch using a drone took out the problem through the process of elmination.

Drones are launched off of aircraft carriers but Air Force handles for the most part in it the drone force. 

Now realize beaver in the 70's there were 2 rather large bunker style ,masive actually sonar stations ,one on the east coast and the other on the west coast. Both the pacific and the atlantic oceans every inch in it was monitered,,sharks ,ships and submarines .The cost of operation of those two highly advanced operations,and the third somewhere that remains illusive was out of this world. At the end of the cold war those two ,the atlantic and pacific operations were promptly shut down because of the cost of operation.


But the tecnology that came of it didn't. 
The thing of it is, those two operating systems that could locate any and all ship or submarine movement  anywhere in two oceans and the illusive third, were completely shrouded in secrecy. Even the scientists had no access to it.
the third falls under plausable deniability.

Once the tecnology is is exposed it is no longer a secret. 

And dats the problem. Piracy on the high seas is a matter of international maritime law.It's a matter of what can and cannot be done legally.
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PostSubject: Re: How do you stop high sea's pirate attacks    How do you stop high sea's pirate attacks  EmptyTue Oct 29, 2013 11:39 pm

Rolling Eyes All I can say to that Niagra is those boot's that don't exist on the ground and those holding Holliday island's and 5 star Hotel's with all mod con's that also don't exist could probly be deemed against some law or other so why not a drone or dozen that also don't exist go for a fly around out at sea  and,,,,well,,,, those pirate boats that kind of sink, well they don't exist now do they, and those pirates that don't exist will not exist when those none existent shark's have finished will they, so if none of any thing don't exist then there is nothing to answer to is there because no proof of any thing exit's, as for advancement's in Technology  well im for it and iv no doubt that which you say is in existence and as you rightly say should remain shrouded in secrecy  as it would not do to let any potential enemy be privy to it also is there, that is were the spying game come's into play, those  men and women in long coat's and dark glasses with those funny walk's and Brief cases filled with all manner of gizmo's all looking  for these none existent  do dar's that the other side may have that they want also.cool2 cool1
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PostSubject: Re: How do you stop high sea's pirate attacks    How do you stop high sea's pirate attacks  EmptyWed Oct 30, 2013 12:02 am

:bmb:  the world can do without those pirates that is for sure.

The problem is how to go about eradicating them without it becoming an international outrage kind of thing.
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PostSubject: Re: How do you stop high sea's pirate attacks    How do you stop high sea's pirate attacks  EmptyWed Oct 30, 2013 12:18 am

Rolling Eyes Niagra its all ready and international out rage that they the pirates are allowed to operate with impunity as it is, I know its a different thing but a little man with a funny moustache and stiff arm was allowed to act with utter impunity and World Governments looked the other way all whistling a lovely tune and look what happened then Shocked  I know that this pirate situation is not as yet on the same scale as old Adolf was, but as far as Africa is concerned From little acorns oak tree's grow and Africa and the World at large can ill afford for that to happen and the World sails by all complaining all doing nothing about it all looking the other way all still whistling that lovely tune while the pirates play on. And don't forget Al Queda is an international group and so to now Al Shabab and both these two are still flexing their muscles and reaching ever further out towards the west and its interests and both these two groups are profiting from the operations  of these pirates, so I think its about time world Governments got real and smelt what is going on and its potential out come and got their individual assess into gear to do some thing positive to end this situation.hmr :bmb2:
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cof:  Ther's no quick solution but it has begun.
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PostSubject: Re: How do you stop high sea's pirate attacks    How do you stop high sea's pirate attacks  EmptyWed Oct 30, 2013 12:27 am

Rolling Eyes Just stick a couple of World leader's in a sailing boat with their wife's let them get high jacked and you will soon see what action's can like magic manifest from no where Abracadabra  

 
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Launch Susan Boyle at em.
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I've stopped going out on the pirate ships at the coast for half hour rides. Just not willing to take anymore chances.
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Rolling Eyes Good idea Banjo  that should work  Laughing 

Time out iv let down my inflatable as well not worth it is it Laughing
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Never thought about my inflatable-cheers for the advice. Just been out and stuck a fork in it!

I might get some sleep now!Sleep
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Fit every vessel with a 20mm cannon. :shter:
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i have read ships are going to start blasting out songs by Britany Spears, god forbid wouldnt it be more humane just to bazook the Little devils  whistle affraid
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