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PostSubject: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ?   Fri Feb 07, 2014 8:31 am

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In the news:  Russian governemnt officals it has been revealed have resorted to
indecent liberties in that they as a group body have planted sound recording devices
as well as video recording equipment not just in hotel rooms but in public bathrooms.
The Russian head of security claims that these measures peculiar as it may seem
are there for the utmost safety concerns at a time when international guesting is expected
to be in high volume due to the Olympic games which are hosted by the Russian federation.

But Clarance Kookivitch a well known activist and director of archives at the Center For Sexual Freedom Foundation based out of San Francisco California USA raised clear toned questions ,Clarance asks., just who are those who's those Russians employ to keep watch with wide open ears ? It seems said Clarance such a watch & listening operation will attract
the worst of the worst predator wise on both ends of the operation as it is a well known fact that predators love to take incredible chances and are known to hold political positions or are in ways politically connected or find their way into job positions that put them close to activity they are always in pursuit of and seemingly above reproach. In effect Clarance went on to say it is indeed a two sided coin same on both sides and so the question must be asked,

Who are the whos who are watching the whos who are looking for the whoevers who may be up to no good ?

Clarance Kookivitch referenced the bathroom ordeal in Russia to cops having been planted in public bathrooms in San Faracisco in the 1950's there to arrest homosexuals
on the charges of indecent liberties.

Kookivitch went on to say Putin speaks as though he has a handle on the mordern changing world form the prospective of a man of the world in 1952 who's outlook has never changed and remains ingrained in cold world beliefs and hypocricy.

Brush your teeth with vodka when in Russia says Clarance Kookivitch.
But befor you do says Clarance ask yourself this question:

Who are the who's who are watching those who's who are watching those whoevers
who's doings may be the undoings of whatever those in the Russian government are
doing . We know what they are doing but why do they do it ?



Have yer say in the comments section where there are no cameras !
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PostSubject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ?   Tue Mar 18, 2014 4:27 am

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PostSubject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ?   Tue Mar 18, 2014 5:08 am

Rolling Eyes looks like them that wander those dim and dark recesses of power have been a cheating cause some one has slipped in a joker amongst that pack of cards and instead of playing poker that there game has turned into a game of snap and we all know that snap is a childs game and children are very unpredictable and can blow into a full state of tantrums at any time  cool2 and that there dang pin ball machine, well that there tilt feature sure aint gonna do much when some sneak thief god dang it has half hitched one of those heavy ball bearings and replace it with a poxey  ping pong ball got no dang weight to um them there ping pong balls so can drastically affect the chance of a high  score being achieved im thinking, then there is the Hooligan element and tilt or no tilt a base ball batting sure dose some thing serious to a nice bit of gaming machine any one got any supper glue there abouts ye all. Basketball
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PostSubject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ?   Tue Mar 18, 2014 5:33 am

Wheeling and dealing has much to do with what you got to offer up in exchange for whatever it is yer looking to gain in both long and short term.

When there is not quite enough to put up on the exchange ratio than something from somewhere to equal or make the deal seem sweeter is required.

That something is called a bargaining chip.A bargining chip on the exchange is of high value, be about like all the chips there are to had acrossed the polker table in the final anti and than some.

If the gambler has no bargaining chip at hand than one must be located than aquired fast at hand.

What would that bargaining chip be at Russia's end of the tables ?
It seems as though the end row of chips shows the desired outcome on Russia's end of tables ,but is that a bluff ? Or a cold bluff.

You see the question is , how far do they want to run with this and to what end ?
The don't want to hold up or fold up,they haven't walked away from the tables but they are running. They've done a little counting ,counting up those votes, and they have inforced the vote to suit their own desired ends.

But how far to they intend to run with it ?
Tactical strategy and the under the cuff bluff.

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PostSubject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ?   Tue Mar 18, 2014 5:44 am

Rolling Eyes look out for that ace under the table or Derringer in a spring holster concealed on the inside of the wrist, Rouble, Euro, Dollar whats on that table and don't forget the drinks Girl who supplies refreshments sees each hand being played  Basketball
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PostSubject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ?   Tue Mar 18, 2014 5:45 am

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PostSubject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ?   Tue Mar 18, 2014 5:56 am

Rolling Eyes Can Obama put his name and Kerrys and Haigs, Cameron's etc name on that Travel ban list to  whistle infact lets ban Travel for all except for oil Tankers and gas pipe travel lets say Diplomatic immunity for oil and gas shall we  cool2  lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ?   Tue Mar 18, 2014 5:58 am

It's called the pinch befor the grip.
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PostSubject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ?   Tue Mar 18, 2014 6:07 am

Rolling Eyes So the Chinese burn is yet to come then I see  whistle
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PostSubject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ?   Tue Mar 18, 2014 6:11 am

It's going to be a rocky five or six weeks ahead of that yer can be sure.
We might have to ban the media input in order to reach the bottom of it ! lol! 

All the mass media does is throw curves at us by over inflating it's daily story lines.

News ='s profits.
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PostSubject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ?   Tue Mar 18, 2014 6:15 am

Rolling Eyes That dirk I Kiev with his megaphone mouth don't help nether, I got to admit inflaming the News sells papers so endangers people so im with you on a media black out till its sorted one way or another. cool1
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PostSubject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ?   Tue Mar 18, 2014 10:35 am

We can always make a point here to stay ahead of the news too. It just might be more fun that way .



http://news.yahoo.com/russia-turn-u-radioactive-ash-kremlin-backed-journalist-223608042--sector.html
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PostSubject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ?   Tue Mar 18, 2014 10:41 am

We must keep a visual on the game in play



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PostSubject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ?   Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:01 pm

Yes ,yer ah, oh yes of course, I recall climbing around the volcano at Mt. St. Helens a few years after it erupted back in the eighties,collecting samples and checking out new growth. It took out a whole lake it did, a lake called Spirit Lake ajoining silver lake
Twas a beautiful lake it were in an utmost beautiful setting.

Yer can gather a sense of the power of a giant volcano ,the power contained deep within. It is not imaginary it is there in fact. And it cannot be controlled ,and once released it does what it does and offers no means to measure untill after the fact.
Volcanic ash traveled all the way around the world it did. And it gave journalists something to write about everywhere on earth.

i actually ran into a free lance journalist on me survey hike about the volcano,his instinct told him I was collecting data and samples and he wondered if I might share a little insight into me data collection, curious intrusive little creatures they are, those journalists.

I had to ask him if he fancied the power of the volcano and wondered if he had ever thought of himself ,in his secret fantasies of course, having a hidden undiscovered power within himself waiting to errupt at just the right moment of oppertunity ! He claimed he was more of a realist and wouldn't think to imagine himself having emmense creative writing powers such of a type as the literary greats.

I said yes well, perhaps yer should concentrate yer efforts on yer own observations and look within yer own data collective instead of thinking to wonder what I have collected and packed away in me back pack ! And I don't see meself as another Darwin either. Curious intrusive sort they are. He were looking for more than there is fer him, something in the form of an idea or a notion he could use to boost his image as a free lance writer.

It wern't just me who seen it fer what it were about that journalist, I talked to park rangers ,other hikers ,people at the information center -he were a nosey intrusive sort of critter,the kind yer chase off .

The erruption didn't reduce the area down to radio active ash ,however it did destroy everything in it's path. Actually everything around the mountian was covered in volcanic ash.Completly covered.

Yes it came as a surprise to manya locals come to know the volcanic ash traveled around the world in just a very short amount of time. All over the world.

The ash feels like a powder light like feathers but lighter. Accumulates big time too.

If yer wanted to imagine what radioactive ash would seem to look like and weigh like, why yer could get a look at a little volcanic ash, that el give yer a pretty good notion of how it is radioactive ash would travel. But of course that particular data is rather recent 30 or so years ago.

But it just goes to show yer just how stupid some of those journalist are. Like that Russian who is no doubt suffering from a inflated ego.

It only took about week.

Do you think that Russian journalist figures himself to be on the guest list at the Hotel Putin survival center ?

How bout the big bad wolf and da three pigs, I'll huff and I'll puff and I'll blow yer house down. jocolor 

Things are growing again around the mountian volcano- and some of the growth is quite mysterious . Beautiful it is in a very different way, unless of course one wouldn't know the difference.But if yer were born to survive,you would just know instinctively.

Is the cost of the arms race really something to brag about in the world of Russian journalism ?
I don't think the Russian mother would think so ,if there is such a mother,you know mother Russia.

Thing is fer politicans, rants about ww3 gives gives the slackers talking points because what many of them do is the next thing to nothing. Rachet it up so the saying goes.

Back to point, I think there is more to this than meets the eye.


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PostSubject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ?   Tue Mar 18, 2014 9:29 pm

Rolling Eyes That eruption on saint Helens was some power trip I only saw it on TV must been awesome for you over there, but eruptions like that have happened time and time again through out the course of History so to the acts of war and rhetoric have repeated its self again and again  cool2  the point being is that man kind every were seem to like to let loose with the verbal, im bigger and stronger and better than you so tow the line yer mug kind of thing, and most of the time that is all that is required and an uneasy peace ensues, The Maori  Warrior of New Zealand devised a way to avoid confrontation with other tribes  by way of pulling a face and prance about in front of an opposing tribe so as to give them a hint of intention or Greeting, this is what is happening now between World leaders, none of which really want to confront each other on the Battle field with the possibility of letting loose those Mushroom birds to attack one another as they on all sides are not that daft that they don't know what the out come would be on all sides not just one, that ash that was spoken about would be the World not one Country, but they gotta tread care fully as not all men think alike, look at the Suicide bomber who sacrifices him self in an unshakable belief that he is doing that act for the greater good, from a small spark a  mighty explosion can erupt and as foretold man destroys man Armageddon  cool1  Basketball   but as you say about your visit to the slopes of Mount saint Helens new life strange new life is again starting to spring forth from that volcanic ash  Basketball  maybe just maybe it would not be a bad idea for Man to destroy man and rid this planet of Mans destructive hands, and this Beautiful Blue planet we all live on can once again settle down as Nature intended as it was before the dawn on Man.  :reap:
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PostSubject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ?   Wed Mar 19, 2014 3:13 am

cool2 Well Putin did a press speech in which he said he approves the Crimean application for unification with Russia, putin  said the referendum was in accordance with democratic protocol, mean while its just been reported that shots have been fired, first Blood has been spilt, a Ukraine Military Base in the Crimea came under attack from Russian Troops who stormed the Complex in the Crimea and during the storming shots were fired one of which hit a Ukrainian Officer in the neck and it has just been reported that this Officer has since died of his wounds, the game has now just gone up from one of a political Nature to one of a Military Nature  cool2  what now,i expect there will be a lot of phones Heating up the communication lines as I type this and a lot of worried people now look to their respective leaders as to what happens next. Basketball
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PostSubject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ?   Wed Mar 19, 2014 4:59 am

Well, it comes down to two words with base roots at opposite poles.
Dependency and independent. Hypocrisy is what it is at face value.
Dependency upon oil and gas hence economy and independent means which is research/development as a guide at the pathway to modern technology leading the way;s and means of the modernized world order. On the part of the secound,oil and patrolium products do not fit into the equation. That's the bottom line for as long as it takes to reach it. So what is hypocrisy or is it the pot calling the kettel black all the while a white knight standing back in the shadows ?

Let's look at what Putin has to say.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/18/crimea-putin-condemns-western-hypocrisy-annexation
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PostSubject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ?   Wed Mar 19, 2014 6:03 am

So he quite the kgb department than robbed himself a study job ,didn't anybody tell her didn't anybody see---


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PostSubject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ?   Wed Mar 19, 2014 6:21 am

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PostSubject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ?   Wed Mar 19, 2014 6:59 am

Ok, so still working on this one but yer will notice on the Abby Road Album cover  the suits the Beetles have on, or what it is on. or what it's about.

The white,the black, the gray and lastly and unattached the blue toe to heel except for the fourth which of course is not a suit but a statement.

There is another factor where one album leads to another. A gap or a point where it could seem as though time stands still. Notice toe to heel except for the fourth in blue.

But, that is all in connection to a point to be made, fer now study the album cover and review Putin's words where what is white is latter turned to black -or call black ,than review the disconnect point where the toe does not touch the heel on the part of the fourth in blue. So the blue may be a slight color reference to the gray areas which are not white or black although gray is not as dark as black but closer to black than it is white. But than comes blue at the end either disconnected or about to connect or reconnect ,but the gap leaves question and the question is both past and present ,but of course that stands to reason.

This will give you a visual of where it all seems to be linked but isn't because of the point of either disconnect or reconnect.The GAP.  This is important in the form of a visual as to eventually getting to the bottom of it and as a result of that, wherever it bottoms out, charges pending. Refer to the title queation of this thread.

As Clarance Kookivitch said, Putin is man stuck in a 1950's mind set ,he therefore is clueless to anything outside after the 1950's be it white or black, gray or blue.

Will leave it off there because it has not all connected up at this point in it.
As the saying goes, a picture is worth a thousand words.

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PostSubject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ?   Wed Mar 19, 2014 9:51 am

Rolling Eyes iv done a hop skip and jump across that Abby road crossing  cool2  whistle
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PostSubject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ?   Wed Mar 19, 2014 11:50 am

Well, I suppose I'll have to place a grid over the Abby road cross walk showing potential areas of Putin's next projected move and all projections into Putin's master plan in the power play they believe can be pulled off.

No doubt there are some parallel projections in some of those moves but it's all pretty much flat lined as seen on the album cover.
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PostSubject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ?   Wed Mar 19, 2014 8:54 pm

Rolling Eyes flat lined  Shocked I think my mind has flat lined so you better draw me a map and bung a grid reference on it for me  :cl1:im not as young as I was yer No  Laughing  Laughing  rokinchr 


Right now to Business, them pesky Ruskies  that the Kremlin says is Crimean Civil Defence force only kind of  dressed like Ruskies have took over a Ukraine  Navel Base now, just as cool as yer like pushed open the gates with the Navel personnel stood there watching as they swaggered in and pulled down the Ukraine flag and bunged up a Russian on on the flag pole,Kiev gave orders to their Military personnel to use force if they needed to,but so far they have refrained from doing so, mind that would be a futile and dangerous act to do as they would stand no chance so would just be chucking away lives needlessly  Shocked The ladies of the free World can do their bit to show support for those of the Ukraine, boycott their Vodka come week end come on ladies have a pernod night out or Bacardi night say to those bone heads stuff yer Vodka SOLIDARITY ladies SOLIDARITY. Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ?   Thu Mar 20, 2014 4:02 am

Well it's not so complicated Beaver,
it's like Clarance said !, we know what they are doing but why do they do it ?

This means we know exactly what is black ad white no doubt about it clear as the light of day so to speak, but there are some shaddy almost invisable grey areas where the light of day don't shine. Such areas need be identified and calculated leaving no room for surprises.

The method applied is clear as a bell as sound travels.The key to understanding the lunacy behind it all is simply identifying Putin as man of the 1950's stuck in a time frame. In what is termed Putin's Russia, to give it, it meaning what it all comes down to a name. Putin's Russia by the way does not define Russia.When you view Putin's Russia you view Putin, all his cronies and all ofvthe who's he himself serves. The modern world to them is a modernized world from a 1950's stand point less progressive change.
Russian thugs for instance are block headed stupid ,there is a lot of that kind of mentality in Putin's Russia. To give that a lable it is called blind stubborn stupidity.

So there on that note it is as if time stands still for them in that mentality.That doesn't mean they they do not observe what goes in time as times pass's ,but what it does mean is they use a selective process as to what they will or will not except.

It might seem nonsense, but if you look at from the stand point from those viewing from the perspective of actually living and thinking in a world of the 1950's AS IT WERE and yurning fer it evermore,than it becomes clear to see how they can sell it to young up coming Russians who know nothing of the fact that the 1950's is old world stuff .Why, they simply believe it is what it is in how it all seems. Which means they don't know any better.

When you think about all the modernized progressive changes in the free world since 1950, well, just think yer cell phone and how it has evloved in a relitive short time span say 10 years. OK so were talking about a world view that is 64 years past tense. Is it really safe back there ?





It seems as though Putin is there and not there at the same time when he speaks of the modern world. Those that oppose the Putinist want steady progressive change ,they want a fully modernized free upscale Russia.

From the old Russia view to it, They will have the world simply except that Russia stepped in and saved them from themselves. Almost as if Russia is being the block watch reinstating it's standing as enforcer.

Than they say outsiders cannot possibly understand the complexities involved,

WE do understand rigged elections ,that we do.

But that leads to the question what does legal actually mean in international law.

Some people are asking what are they doing ? But thats the catch, that question leaves one stuck-similar to being stuck in the world of a 1950;s mentality.

Can they capture generations up in all that than confine them all to it ?







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PostSubject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ?   Fri Mar 21, 2014 6:09 am

Rolling Eyes Tit for tat sanctions being slung back and forth R.T. say that the U.S. State dept is now blaming the sniper shootings that happened at the start of the disturbances in Kiev at the Kremlins door to instigate events so as to take eyes of Russia making a move on the Crimea  cool1
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