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PostSubject: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ?   Fri Feb 07, 2014 8:31 am

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In the news:  Russian governemnt officals it has been revealed have resorted to
indecent liberties in that they as a group body have planted sound recording devices
as well as video recording equipment not just in hotel rooms but in public bathrooms.
The Russian head of security claims that these measures peculiar as it may seem
are there for the utmost safety concerns at a time when international guesting is expected
to be in high volume due to the Olympic games which are hosted by the Russian federation.

But Clarance Kookivitch a well known activist and director of archives at the Center For Sexual Freedom Foundation based out of San Francisco California USA raised clear toned questions ,Clarance asks., just who are those who's those Russians employ to keep watch with wide open ears ? It seems said Clarance such a watch & listening operation will attract
the worst of the worst predator wise on both ends of the operation as it is a well known fact that predators love to take incredible chances and are known to hold political positions or are in ways politically connected or find their way into job positions that put them close to activity they are always in pursuit of and seemingly above reproach. In effect Clarance went on to say it is indeed a two sided coin same on both sides and so the question must be asked,

Who are the whos who are watching the whos who are looking for the whoevers who may be up to no good ?

Clarance Kookivitch referenced the bathroom ordeal in Russia to cops having been planted in public bathrooms in San Faracisco in the 1950's there to arrest homosexuals
on the charges of indecent liberties.

Kookivitch went on to say Putin speaks as though he has a handle on the mordern changing world form the prospective of a man of the world in 1952 who's outlook has never changed and remains ingrained in cold world beliefs and hypocricy.

Brush your teeth with vodka when in Russia says Clarance Kookivitch.
But befor you do says Clarance ask yourself this question:

Who are the who's who are watching those who's who are watching those whoevers
who's doings may be the undoings of whatever those in the Russian government are
doing . We know what they are doing but why do they do it ?



Have yer say in the comments section where there are no cameras !
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PostSubject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ?   Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:48 am

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PostSubject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ?   Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:01 am

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PostSubject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ?   Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:05 am

Rolling Eyes Yep that's pretty much it for now. Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ?   Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:13 am

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PostSubject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ?   Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:51 am

Rolling Eyes Yes we see that from our view point to, those in the Ukraine well a good few of them are very anti  Russia, anti Putin etc, and voicing  it in full  vocals  Neutral  they seem to be trying to egg the E.U. and the U.S on against Russia and Putin, the E.U. how ever is playing it a little cautious especially Germany and we seem to support that view to, the U.S. how ever and to a degree France are more into a little force full action by way of threats of Sanctions and Travel restrictions on selected individuals and trying to isolate Russia to try and force some action on leaving the Crimea which I cannot to be honest see happening any time soon, I think the view must be taken that Crimea is a lost cause, its Russian now lets leave it at that and redraw Territorial lines, after all the Crimea was formally Russian and is mostly populated by Russians so whats the big deal, as I see it the sooner that's accepted the better and all these threats of Military involvement and trade and economic war can be then shelved  cool2 it would be good for every one all round even the Ukraine even if they don't know it them self's as yet. Basketball
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PostSubject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ?   Fri Mar 14, 2014 1:54 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ?   Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:12 pm

Wink Solidarity is a now a World wide slogan for the people by the people, the peoples voices can now through modern means i.e. the Internet the World wide web be heard above those who try to oppress the masses by unjust means and laws designed to manacle its peoples so they can be beaten into a submissive role that make it easy for their so called leaders to use their bully boys to keep the peoples subservient to their wishes and promote the multinational giant company's to operate at will over riding the peoples rights in the pursuit of wealth and power which enables that top ten percent of the World populaces to stay in power and lord it over their respective peoples of each respective land through out the Globe, the onset of the computer and the  web now posse a threat to that position that they have enjoyed through out History, so we the people of which ever land you come from must resist their intent of curbing its use thus stifling the peoples voices, call it what you will World Revolution if you like but the people must now we have the means all stand together and show these Mongrels that they can kill and imprison us but they will never beat us for we are the people, and those they use to keep them in these positions of so called power i.e. the Police and the security forces had better look inwards unto them selfs for they to are members of the people so even they are victims of those who seek to oppress the masses.  

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PostSubject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ?   Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:29 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ?   Sat Mar 15, 2014 8:04 am

watching the news today and listening to Kerry i cant see nothing happening, and Russia can hurt Europe much more, than Europe can hurt them. Germany  has the largest supply of gas, so Russia can always tighten the screw there, and many countries have heavily invested in Russia, i dont think Theres a lot anyone can do except say a lot of verbal
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PostSubject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ?   Sat Mar 15, 2014 6:46 pm

I think there is more to this than meets the eye. Power is like a highly addictive drug such as heroin and drugs of a highly addictive consequence. Napoleon was brillant too.





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PostSubject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ?   Sun Mar 16, 2014 4:08 am

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PostSubject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ?   Sun Mar 16, 2014 4:24 am

Rolling Eyes I think putin ort to nip over to Ukraine vodka in hand and have a pow wow with them there doing all that ranting and have a right Bevvey  night entertainment curtsey of the pussy riot Girls, Obama can turn up with some soul and Motown recordings Kerry can do an Irish jig or two and bring some Guinness, Cameron can do a turn on the Bagpipes and have a supper of fish and chips  cool1 should all be sorted done and dusted come the morning what say yuss  Basketball
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PostSubject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ?   Sun Mar 16, 2014 4:53 am

I think Putin is heading into a severe storm of the kind that claims ships and all aboard.


He suspects the storm is building up force but see's that force as being nothing of consequence.
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PostSubject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ?   Sun Mar 16, 2014 5:22 am

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PostSubject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ?   Sun Mar 16, 2014 5:58 am

Ok, so we talked about The soviet Union's computer networks having been in total shambles coming to the last two decades of it's rain of terror on it's on.

And We discussed the trade deal Nelson Rockerfeller was working on with the Soviet Union close to his own death where part of a deal arrangement with soviet government trading for Russian fine arts was a deal package where the russians would secure warehoused obselete pin ball machines for the electronic components contained within.

The machine above will have been one of my choices to send along should that deal have gone through. Nixon as president put a stop to that deal.Shortly after that Rockerfeller died in his wheeling and dealing chair actually working out deals with the Soviet government at the time of his sudden death.

Now I mentioned the highly advanced electronic components that went into those machines and the commerical market for the development of those components actually rivaled the stereo hi fy industry down the avenues of technological advancements.Back in the 70's a 2 month old pin ball machine was old technology ,those machines were replaced with more and more bells and whisles almost as fast as the eye can blink.-or so it seemed.Many of those machines ended up in giant warehouses in New York City.All Rockerfeller had to do was buy up all the so called junkers ,put those junkers on Exxon fraighters and ship them all off to Russia.

That period in time was known as the technological renascence because of governmental control over market technology- because of course of the cold war.

This particular pin ball machine is pretty cool isn't it ?
Artsy to look at too.

to service such a machine the intire top lifts up about like the hood or bonnet of an autromobile. A metal rod holds up the face board and underneith if yer interested in electronic components and how it all works, it is equally as interesting and artsy to look at in how it all works.

And how all that technology came togather through technological innovations is interesting too. Such as the manufacturers of those goods and how those components were marketed and under certain governmental restrictions. Japan in those years operated their market in accordnance with those restrictions ,however they managed to make considerable technological advancements in market. However they ran into import- export issues that propelled Japan to seek different venues to display their products. Market tech wars and all that ,20th century stuff.

Now at that time in that particular time frame Russia's wanting of those pin ball machines was an open addmission or confession to the fact that the Soviet Union's entire infastructure was in a total shambles ,yet it carried on for 20 or s0 more years. How does it make sense you might wonder, after all they were sending man into space -the space race and all that .
sacrificial cost is how-rob Peter to pay Paul. Eccomomist were disputing those issues for decades since the end of ww2.

How many cars were there in Russia in 1979 ?
were there more or less than in the UK ? Were there as many cars in Russia as there were in free europe ?
I think the true answer to that question might surprise you.

The problems from those years have not all gone away in Russia since it joined in. And the people are sick and tired of being sick and tired of all the nonsense.

There is an undercurrent building within the populas and it's slowly turning into a raging river about to release it's power and havoc upon it's defiant rulers.

And it will not be beat back.
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PostSubject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ?   Sun Mar 16, 2014 6:49 am

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PostSubject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ?   Sun Mar 16, 2014 7:27 am

Now in the history of the pin ball machine there is the cost of play. those machines were popularized in what were once called penny arcades-gamming palaces desigened to attract kids into magic bandit penny gaming.Cost elevation of course came into happening at the arcades as the gamming became more sufisticated and arcades became a popular hang out- from a penny to a nickle to a dime than a quater than two of those and on and so on. As you look acrossed the long run in it's history.

And that as it so happens is the the issue at hand- the cost in the long run.when the cost is more than the country at hand can bare than something must be sacrificed and the sacrificial lambs are at wits end as it is.

It is thought this annexation was long in the planning,it was just waiting for the right oppertune moment-circumstances and events that ripen the act of easy pickens.

This was Putin's olympic maneuver and it was no coincidence.Nor was Putin's tactics brillant. Easy pickens is just that ,but the cost isn't at all easy going for those that bare those costs.Easy for Putin, a never ending tragedy for people.



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PostSubject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ?   Sun Mar 16, 2014 9:42 pm

Rolling Eyes Yeah I see yer point and I can well remember those cold war days to as you know I was once a former member of the Berlin Brigade stationed at Montgomery Brks  in the Kladow  area of the City not far from Gatow air field <<<< I think that's how its spelt  Shocked  we use to every now and then have a pratice call out and I would find myself laying full stretch some were just of the main runway holding an unloaded 7.62 S.L.R. Rifle next to another bemused Squaddie in possession of an unloaded Carl Gustav antti Tank weapon  Shocked  cool2 there we lay and we all listened to those pesky Russians doing their bit to on the other side we could hear all the racket of their armour forming into attack positions and I bet they were not sitting there with no ammo like us lot  Shocked  Basketball ????????? I also did on one occasion have the luck to be included in an across the wall tour of East Berlin we were driven by way of Charlie check point in two army buses with the Union jack on their sides, we were made to leave all watches, camera's, any thing electrical etc behind and were searched so that we complied with that order,we did not understand why at the time but now I do, what did we all think of the other side at that time  Shocked  Sleep    we were all Bored stiff, we did get a laugh tho when we watched a bit of their straight leg marching as they changed guard at some  were or other glad we don't march like that might do ones self a mischief im sure of that  Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ?   Sun Mar 16, 2014 9:50 pm

laugh5  laughing  lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ?   Sun Mar 16, 2014 10:04 pm

Laughing  laugh5 It could though be worse I thought that the Russians were hard done to marching like that but just take a look at these poor old Greek lads  Laughing  if we had to march like that they would have to bring in a draft because that's the only way they would have got me into uniform, they would have had to use a tranquilizer dart fired from close range to get me into that get up that's for sure. affraid 



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PostSubject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ?   Mon Mar 17, 2014 8:59 pm

cool1 Well Crimea as expected went ahead with the vote and so to as expected majority went for joining Mother Russia again and have now formally submitted application to Russia for the Crimea to re-join and return to the Russian fold  cool2  :cl2:Kiev as expected are fuming and the referendum as also expected is not being recognised by the E.U. U.S.A. etc , William Haig of Britain made his views known on TV saying that the Crimean referendum was unconstitutional and fears that it may be the start of Putin and Russia's rebuilding of lost Russian states by way of being seen as the protectorate of its Citizens living within former Soviet states that have broken with the Mother land, and now it seems the Mother may be about to try and call them back home by hook or by crook, Haig sighted the possible re enactment of the Crimea with Odessa  also on the Black Sea    cool2  could we be seeing further Russian expansion in the near future and what will be the response from the U.S.A.  Nato   and E.U.  Basketball The game is at hand first dice have been rolled, bets are on the table, lights are low, expectancy is in the air, and the air is getting Heavy  Basketball  who next to roll them Dice, will the stakes be increased, the World is Watching with battered Breath as the night air is decidedly getting chilly  cool1
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PostSubject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ?   Tue Mar 18, 2014 3:21 am

cof:  And so the bets are down on the table all wonder what is next.

Things are happening at a fast pace, almost too fast to project into where it is all going.

But, ahhh, the polker faces seem to shine on in the moment leaving no hint as to what the next play will be in exacts.

What is really happening though ,what is really happening inside all that goes down and has gone down ?
How do we form a visual in effort to get a mind wrap around all of it ?

The pin ball machines hold clues .
Here is what is going down.

If you have ever watched pin ball fanatics on a roll in high gear ,you will have noticed each one to his or her own believe they have ways of manipulating the ball by way of force by pushing and pulling the table ,hitting it on one side or the other ,shaking it what have you ,personal methods of directing the ball in a direction to their favor.
The designers are well aware of this and have been all along,that is why the tilt game stopper was factored into the machine. Force is applied and the tilt light lights up and as a result of that the ball in play and the points accumulated by it are zeroed out. And so the players all believe they have just the right moves or can apply max. force just enough to avoid the tilt factor, but the intensity of the game gets them every time. Those players are called the shake rattle and roll crowd.

Those players seem to believe they can insert themselves bodily into the action.
The believe or think to believe by applying force to the machine the ball in play can be manipulated in a given preferred direction.And it is an addiction.

Such gamers find it the next thing to impossible to simply allow the ball to run it's course using the flappers to redirect the ball into play or motion. The intensity is no less intense when the player uses skill with those flapers rather than beating on the sides of the machine to manipulate the direction the ball will go,and beating out temptation to give the machine a wack is part of the game play. Because if you tilt it, you lose what gained . It's that simple.

It only take one good game with very high points built up for the gamer who does not try to force the ball to move in a given preferred direction to realize that force of play doesn't really gain much if anything.In fact it throws the game off.

Gamblers at the card tables understand that. You see when yer hot yer hot and when yer not yer not.

OK so whats happening here is on one end is you got a lot a shake rattle and roll going on with that ball in play. And on the other end it's the other way.

Many politicans are a lot like those gamers that just must insert themselves into the machine- rather in missfit ways . Nobody seems to keep track of all those misfit statements many of those politicans make in the heat of the action. But that doesn't mean there is no running count.

What counts in the action is the pointers adding up to big numbers.
I means seriously now, you don't blow up the pin ball machine because the game didn't turn out to yer favor !


It all comes down to how one handles the high intenstiy of the fast pace in the game at play. Even if it's a short game it all comes down to how it plays out in the long run.

I have a mason jar of volcanic ash from when Mt. St. Helen's erupted years ago,it just sits there in a jar.

Did you know there were some people that refused to leave their homes even when they knew fer sure the volcano was going to blow as a matter of fact ?

For some people that is very hard to believe, how could they just ???.But for others it is not so hard to believe or except.

Me jar of volcanic ash is harmless.

It's about the long run.

What Putin is on about comes as no surprise at all.
Even Sarah Palin knew something about that back in 08, but that was no surprise either.

After all Alaska is practically right next door to Russia !

How the situation is being handled is exactly how it is supposed to be handled.




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