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PostSubject: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ?   Fri Feb 07, 2014 8:31 am

In the news:  Russian governemnt officals it has been revealed have resorted to
indecent liberties in that they as a group body have planted sound recording devices
as well as video recording equipment not just in hotel rooms but in public bathrooms.
The Russian head of security claims that these measures peculiar as it may seem
are there for the utmost safety concerns at a time when international guesting is expected
to be in high volume due to the Olympic games which are hosted by the Russian federation.

But Clarance Kookivitch a well known activist and director of archives at the Center For Sexual Freedom Foundation based out of San Francisco California USA raised clear toned questions ,Clarance asks., just who are those who's those Russians employ to keep watch with wide open ears ? It seems said Clarance such a watch & listening operation will attract
the worst of the worst predator wise on both ends of the operation as it is a well known fact that predators love to take incredible chances and are known to hold political positions or are in ways politically connected or find their way into job positions that put them close to activity they are always in pursuit of and seemingly above reproach. In effect Clarance went on to say it is indeed a two sided coin same on both sides and so the question must be asked,

Who are the whos who are watching the whos who are looking for the whoevers who may be up to no good ?

Clarance Kookivitch referenced the bathroom ordeal in Russia to cops having been planted in public bathrooms in San Faracisco in the 1950's there to arrest homosexuals
on the charges of indecent liberties.

Kookivitch went on to say Putin speaks as though he has a handle on the mordern changing world form the prospective of a man of the world in 1952 who's outlook has never changed and remains ingrained in cold world beliefs and hypocricy.

Brush your teeth with vodka when in Russia says Clarance Kookivitch.
But befor you do says Clarance ask yourself this question:

Who are the who's who are watching those who's who are watching those whoevers
who's doings may be the undoings of whatever those in the Russian government are
doing . We know what they are doing but why do they do it ?



Have yer say in the comments section where there are no cameras !
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PostSubject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ?   Fri Feb 07, 2014 9:26 pm

Makes you Wonder, i Wonder what will happen if all those gay couples or gay people start cuddling and kissing, what are they going to do? We saw a interview over here, and it was about people that were moved, they wernt asked, and the guy said, quote, we dont value russien human life over here. The journalist hotels wernt finished. According to Journalist they reckon the smell of curroption is really bad
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PostSubject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ?   Thu Feb 20, 2014 7:08 am

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PostSubject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ?   Thu Feb 20, 2014 7:36 am

cof:  Clearly the inevitable has become apparent ,has it not ? A clear case of selective targeting . It is not about enforcing the law or crowd control and it is not about protecting the publics safety, but what it is about is simply the force of hand.
No doubt the cossacks will be rewarded for their enforcement work with a most generous supply of vodka ,enough to keep them drunk and happy for a good long time. They have served in a most indignant mannor true to the nature of the beast.

As it says in the song, Roll Out The Barrels ,We'll have a barrel of fun cassack style.

But as Clarance Kookivitch would tell you, it isn't at all a barrel of fun being dead on right on it such as it is in this particular case.

But Clarance will be back to tell you about the doings within the pending undoings in and within the Russian government to the tune of Crime does not pay. To spare the rod does not necessarially spoil the child as it was beleived it would back in 1952.

To begin with it says here ,Clarance is saying first it must be established that crimes of the state have occurred.And from that point to it on forword those responsible for making it possible for those sadistic enforcers who are clearly filled with hate to express their hatered through the whip should and shall be held accountable.All the way on up to the heads of state.

It all comes down to the force of hand and time and time again it shows over and over again that the force of hand is nothing more than a temporary hold on whatever it is the enforcers will think to believe they are beating back.

In the mordern world there is this thing called mordern psychology and the world has indeed changed. :reap: Simply put ,the reverse of the force of hand is reaching out.

Forever in the world in stupidity why is it Putin and his pals cannot simply figure that one out ?

They have no practical solutions they know that,force of hand doesn't really work, they know that too. Why is it they forever fail to see that the reverse of failure is success. Force of hand cannot and will not work so what does that leave ?

Simples-reach out.

Unclentch the fist,put down the hammer and sickle, place yer arm out there straight forword and poout yer hand out or hell too even both arms.

It takes real strength and committment to do that ,the cowards way is force of hand.

But forever they fear they will appear weak should, they heaven forbidd ,reach out.
It's really a no brainer.





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PostSubject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ?   Fri Feb 21, 2014 1:42 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ?   Fri Feb 21, 2014 1:55 pm

Clarance Kookivitch the director of archives at the Center For Sexual Freedom Foundation at San Francisco California asks you to ask yourself- is the legendary cossack warrior a coward woman beater or are those enforcers cowardly imposters ?

The answer says Clarance is contained within the archives.
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PostSubject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ?   Sat Feb 22, 2014 10:17 am

I thought it was sad to see the girls getting hit like that, one also felt that if a camera wasnt there, they would of gotten hit a lot more and a lot harder. I would rather see their protest than see a bunch of thugs being allowed to bully others
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PostSubject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ?   Sat Feb 22, 2014 11:03 am

I doubt they continue on with rejecting human rights in Russia such as they did for fifty years as the Soviet Union. It shouldn't take 100 years or so for the force of hand to die off. It no longer makes sense to look further back in the hundreds of years or compare Russia ,it's ways to that of the seventeenth century such as it is in Iran or other such countries that rule by the force of hand.

As Clarance Kookivitch says,-How can people take pride in their country when they are being robbed of their dignity ? Isn't that of the many reason for the protesters to protest ? They leave no choice but to fight back.
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PostSubject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ?   Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:32 am

It looks like Putin has had himself an overloaded plate the last week of the Oylmpic games with things firing up the way things did in the Ukraine.
People want to be free from oppression. Or what you call force of hand rule.

Don't you think political paranoia might have taken hold in Moskow ?
But they do have their cossacks for such matters don't they ?

But what exactly is a cossack ? From what we have seen a cossack is one who robs persons of their dignity on behalf of governmental force of hand rule.

As clarance Kookivitch said, clearly it is senseless to look to history in effort to understand what is the nature of the cossack because what the cossack does today in modern times in the modern world, makes the cossack what the cossack is. And isn't the modern day cossack what you would call a sell out for having sold out pride and integrity of once proud and brave warriors resorting to beating woman with whips for all the world to see ?
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PostSubject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ?   Wed Feb 26, 2014 4:25 pm















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PostSubject: Putin Parlay   Thu Feb 27, 2014 5:34 am

Putin has ordered readyness drills for the Russian military in the wake of the Ukraine revolt resulting in the the ousting of it strong arm government.

As political paranoia spreads at the Kremlin in Moscow, force of hand rule becomes the first reaction to the actions taken in Ukraine.

There is no word at this time as to what exactly the cossacks will be used for should ground forces be placed in the Ukraine.It is suspected the cossacks will be equipped with explosive tips on their horse whips. Although there is no comformation to the rumor ,after having viewed how it is those cossacks are in a most viral mannor,nothing such of a kind will do can be too surprising.

Putin no doubt believes it is a necessary precaution because uncertainty does not fall to order.Untill certainty is reestablished in concrete form the authorities of Russia remain on high strong arm alert.

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PostSubject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ?   Fri Feb 28, 2014 11:24 am

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The migrant workers brought into Russia to build the infrastructure for the Sochi Olympics were often targets of abuse. “On June 12, police in Sochi brutally beat and raped construction worker Martiros Demerchyan, according to human rights and media sources,” the report said. “Demerchyan and his brother-in-law had worked on a Sochi Olympic construction site and had complained to their employer about nonpayment of wages, after which police arrested him and attempted to force him to confess to stealing construction materials. When Demerchyan refused, police beat him for hours, knocking out his teeth, cracking his skull, breaking his ribs, and raping him with a crowbar.” A Russian government investigative committee later said that Demerchyan’s claims could not be substantiated and opened a case against him for making false allegations against the police. 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Other examples of Russian political persecution noted in the State Department report were the arrest and detention of opposition leader Alexey Navalnyy, the prosecution and imprisonment of two member of the band Pussy Riot, and the failure of the Russian justice system to bring to justice the killers of Sergei Magnitsky, the anti-corruption lawyer who died after being beaten in Russian prison and was posthumously convicted on charges of tax fraud. President Obama signed into law the Sergei Magnitsky Rule of Law and Accountability Act of 2012, which created a list of Russian human rights violators who would be subject to visa bans and asset freezes. But after initially adding 18 names to the Magnitsky list in 2013, this year the White House decided not to expand the list any further. 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PostSubject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ?   Fri Feb 28, 2014 11:49 am

Clarance Kookivitch suggests you read this release of findings and conclusions and he says you will find what is in it is what a member of the Pussy Band said to anybody anywhere who would listen to her words.

She asked onlookers to look beyond the facade than look upon the truth . You will see oppression is everywhere and in the very air that you breath. And for speaking truth,they were bull whipped.

Since Russia embraced the modern world it's people have been given little more than food for thought ,yet they starve because of that which is of no use 99 percent of the time.

As Clarance said-small is the change for such a grandiose title, that being modernized Russia. Or is it just an illusion of grandeur.Perhaps the answer to that one is standing in the bread lines.

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PostSubject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ?   Sat Mar 01, 2014 12:28 am

Rolling Eyes The fact is that the Russian people had their chance to change things with the fall of Communism which resulted in Russia becoming the Wests new best Friends and so followed the dismantling of the Berlin Wall, Nuke missiles and delivery systems etc and hands of so called friendship held out to the west, the west in turn took a hold of that out stretched hand and helped  them financially and Technology wise resulting in a vastly more Modernized Russia, we saw how their Nuke Subs were all in a vastly dangerous state of repair so to most other things no wonder Communism collapsed as most of Russia's income was badly spent on Military things which ate up more finance than could be supplied, the west saw then an exodus of Russians and others of the former Soviet block  all heading towards the West these included many of those the Russians were glad to get rid of namely their Maffia and crime lords who now find life here in the west most comfortable and much to their tastes, now how ever the Russian people decided that they mist the old lads of the Communist era and so elected what every one knew including us here in the West a self confest  hard liner of the old order namely Comrade Putin  cool2     time out gave Russia a chance to modernize in  all areas and become stable again, so stable now that they once again want the World to see them as the World power they once were, and have been flexing their muscles accordingly much to the approval  of those that mist the old days of the cold war,now its again fast becoming a game of them and us again back to square one of miss trust and threat to the point were they now want to take back former Eastern  block Countries into the Russian fold once more. One thing that they must be really gloating over is the fact that now the Americans are going cap in hand to Russia to ask them if they could use their space station and rockets to get them there seeing as how the U.S. Space Shuttle has been decommissioned with out a replacement, are the mighty U.S.A. a bit short of cash to spend on the Space race now as same as what Russia did the U.S.A. have been spending far to much on sticking its nose into Countries were it has no business and spending cash it cannot afford mounting up the U.S. Deficit to the point were more and more of those in power are becoming just a mite fidgety that as the saying go's the walls of Jericho will come a Tumbling down  cool1  Shocked
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PostSubject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ?   Sat Mar 01, 2014 6:37 am











It looks like typical surface bucket but it has modernized survveillance which
means it is a spy ship and it is in the very backyard of the United States. what this is, is  :reap: sabor ratteling as was indicated in a previous post where clarance Kookivitch was on the topic of modern world psychology vs. force of hand rule.

Now, if Russia were actually evolving as a whole as a country in modern times than such a port of call for the Russian navy would be a sign of the times meaning,moving closer to binding the ties in partnership.

However this is not the case. Instead as it seems to appear the Russians are turning back the clock although that is impossible, it appears to be so.

Now as a Beaver you did mention the russian space station and the sad conditions  of the former soviet nuclear submarines at the end of russia's fifty some odd years as was predicted back at the ends of ww2. Half century there there abouts. Well yes we knew as far back as early on in the 1970's the soviets were quite strapped and desperate for the lack of and the need of electronic components.

In fact Mr. Beaver an oil monger in the United States by the name of Nelson Rockerfeller was wheeling and dealing with the impoverished soviet regime trading for Russian fine art.  :reap:  now, part of the said wheeling and dealing the Soviets wanted to buy up much of stored obsolete pin ball machines for the electronic components contained within. The Nixon adminstration put a stop to that deal.

You might find it odd, pin ball machines you might say, thats rediculous ,but it's not. you see Mr. Beaver, back than unbeknoweth to most the cold war was reaching it's end at a fast pace.The soviets were broke and the Russian people were just about at the wits end and mass revolt was the great fear .Unlike what we haave seen in the Ukraine such a Russian revolt in that period of time will have become th great slaughter if it had come to total revolt.
Let's be clear the russian people were sick and tired of being sick and tired.

Back to those pin ball machines-, people clearly understand the Cold War was ongoing, but the cold war created an even greater set back ,it created a technologies rennissance -you see government got all the goods, and market got little to nothing because of the cold war. You Mr. Beaver might recall getting yer hot little hands on yer very first pocket calculator-gee wizz what a neato thingy to have- beats the old slide rule fer sure. Yer first big deal stereo with all the
bells and whistels. big market fer Japan by the way -they took to the limets and pushed the boundries.  

And those boundries are the boundries set fourth through the rules of operation in the world at war for peace.The cold war was not exclusively between the United State and Russia, it was a world war.But it was silent.You know that the Soviet computer network was in shambles ,thier operating systems were old technologey and lacking repair parts to keep the systems going, and yes their submarines were old and creeky and very very noisey and easy to detect from great distances.

The governments controlled technology and market was forced into confining perimeters.

Now, interestingly enough the gamming industery through the ever popular and ever changing pin ball machines were big buyers buying goods off of the electronics industery and further in research and development.Pin ball machines were and remain hot hot comodities. Did yer know Mr. Beaver that in pubs all throughout the United States pin balls machines are as popular or more popular than the pool tables ? And the more pin ball machines there were or are in a pub, the more patrons there will be. And the patrons want the most modern there is.

Back in the 1970,s a pin ball machine was obsolete within a month, thats how fast the tech. aspect in it was changing- ,why it would seem yer was just getting to out figure the dang thing and the next time you come into to have at it ,yer looking at a brand new game, the month old one had exceeded it's life expectancy.Same with military electronics-obsoleete befor it even made it's way into production. FAST PACE>.

Now on those pin balls machines, so many of of those old rascles ended up in storage in warehouses in New York City,because all of it was old technonogey believe it ot not. And the Soviets wanted to buy them up for electronic components contained within. Why- they badly needed the parts.
And now the world knows just how badly.

Average person doesn't really understand that a technological freeze had come over the planet- oh the military industrial complex got out it what it wanted out of it and exactly the way it ordered it.We got stereos and pocket calculators and pin ball machines .

You have noticed Mr. Beaver since the wall went down and the national areonautics and space adminstration ='s advanced technology was opened up to market-all the cool thingies on market today eh ? all kinds of career fiels that did not exist and were impossible to train for look tword the future back in the good old 1970's. Unless of course yer were fer-milure with all the neat stuff the military had and how it is the military industrial complex works befer yer went of to collage.

So the technological rennosaunce brought on by the cold war and the cost and where there is no recovery.

Russia should be carefull with that sabor because there are as of yet a whole lot of pissed off people !

Lastly Mr. Beaver is this global issue with oil equaling currency. Beyond us old timers Mr. Beaver is the next phase of the technological reveloution which will be known as the technlogical industrial reveloution or some such thing. What's holding back yer may ask . Truth is you already know that answer. Thing of it is ,it isn't a game.

Yep, everybody likes to look at paintings even in pictures of persons back in the rennosaunce, where it is they seemed to almost appear to know that that something of drastic change was to come-almost as if in a time wharf and appearing to be actually looking back or forword at you. One may gather the impression they knew something .

If you believe technologey will lead the way ,bring it out of it, than you really have to believe it will take leaders and innovators to guide the process.Safe be it to say the leaders as they are will not be in the company of the next planetary technological extravaganza because ,well just because their way of thinking is conventional boardering obsoelete.

Hence the assembly of the global order of the best and the brightest ,assembled in the same place at the same time. Imagine that !

But how do you imagine that as it it does seem at times hopeless. Well that there is a problem issue that doesn't require a calculator to sort out. Well, when you look at crookitry and gimmictry in politics and war,and convntional thinking boardering obsolete and than you look at and back at the fast pace of technological changes and innovations in the the electronics industry fer example,how fast something of modern technology became conventional or even obsolete and how difficult it were and are to keep pace with the changes and innovations ,technological ,and you imagine that fast pace to a speed and distance equation and that you look at those who are moreso concerned with linning thier pockets and advancing theirselfs in the power structure by it,

And from there yer imagine the changes or technonogy advancing and changing so fast that the crooks can't possibly keep up with it.They will all be boggeed down in securing their own interests to such an extent and with it becoming impossible to keep pace with it, yer can imagine they will all slip into obscurity and obsoleteness inevitabilty fading away leaving behind nothing but change more or less.Which is to say they are incabable of decision making as to where more or less is required.

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PostSubject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ?   Sat Mar 01, 2014 7:56 am

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PostSubject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ?   Sat Mar 01, 2014 8:47 am

Rolling Eyes well they are all Modernized up now at the  present time, so for the time being pose quite a considerable threat, if they have learnt any thing from their previous failings in the Tecno dept then they would have directed resources into advancing their Tecno capabilities for the future, but as you pointed out above advances in Electronics and their capabilities seem to move on at frightening speeds making some things out dated even before they become available for use by the Governments of those Countries were they had been invented in  the first place, the West in the past has been a hot bed of Tecno  savie  invention, lets hope this continues into the future, hope fully  if Russia dose turn the clock back to cold war days their inventiveness will also go back as well if not who knows what new nasty's they will give birth to that us here in the West would have to counter act to again take up the advantage lead, spy ships are nothing new as you pointed out with the video above, I remember in my military service listening in on Russian Trawlers operating of the Scottish and Northern Irish Coast, we would use our radios to scan the air waves during time of from patrols and liston in on  them, funny tho they most of the chit chat sounded like female voices we formed a picture of hard faced sea salt encrusted battle wagon type of women that would look like any thing other than a woman but more like some thing from the black lagoon that would be more of a pin up picture for a Walrus than a Hot blood sex starved Squaddie doing his bit for Queen and Country  Basketball  pig  Shocked
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PostSubject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ?   Sat Mar 01, 2014 9:25 am

The technological point is that we are actually in a technological holding world wide
and that has very much to do with the fact that oil equals currency.

When not if oil dependency os abolished that is when the global industrial technological dynasty of a sort will assume distribution of reigning powers.
to think of it in such terms it does become difficult because yer will consider impossibilities of the world as it is by it's ruling forces.think about it, waring over oil because it is the base of extreme wealth and power when dependency upon oil is as foolish or more foolish as the control of the diamonds.Just but a few hundred years ago gun powder was currency and the means to extreme wealth and the development of was to increase impact. The bigger the cannon the greater the impact.

So what turn off the pipe line to the Ukraine and what ?

Point being the oil game is about up in the same way the Soviet Union dismantled. It was inevitable and apparently so. Every game must come to an inevitable end.Which means that game has long since been over played and all the players know it. Yet the game continues on in play.

Mans fascination with speed has been around forever, there is a reason for that,how fast fast is I mean. The technological revolution will change how it is we actually see and experience extreme speed.

Conventional thinkers will find their place standing back behind.Perfectly free behind the scenes.

Because in that tune it is not the world belonging to young but a world for those who operate and function well at the fast pace. You see reaching high speed is fairly easy,but sustaining it is not so easy.So what happens when one pushs the peddle a bit too far without thought to it and suddenly capured in the thrill of speed than suddenly realizing going much faster than is desired ? If it isnt corrected by a radical decrease in speed of course crash is likely. Experience for which there is no substitute.
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PostSubject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ?   Sat Mar 01, 2014 10:01 am

Rolling Eyes Been watching R.T.News in English and their take on the Ukraine is vastly different as one might expect,they see those in Kiev being taken over by bully boys who are trying now to pull in the E.U.  so as to use them for their own ends and those of the Balaclava region mainly Russian speaking objecting to their take over thus forcing them to set up armed groups at the air ports expecting those in kiev  to try and move in and force them to tow the line, the Russians are saying that they are conducting pre arranged manovers in the area and of the coast and are not threatening any thing,but then again that is a well known tactic used by the west as well as R.T. Showed by Americas convenient manouvers  in Korea,and in the fly over and sea war games in the area of the  china disputed islands with Japan  and one or two other times the ploy was used, Obama is trying to dictate keep out to Russia and seems so is  the E.U. its no ones Business other  than the Ukraines  its an internal thing so all other parties had better keep their noses out of it and let them settle the issue for them selfs, safer all around I would have thought. cool2
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PostSubject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ?   Sat Mar 01, 2014 10:14 am

actually Bev. I'm waiting to see what you find out, all we got is wut's in the news as it is tailored . anything you find out will add indeed. Keep watching fer more news form yer end .

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PostSubject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ?   Sat Mar 01, 2014 10:21 am

Rolling Eyes Will do  Wink i'll switch Telly on first thing in the morning R.T. BBC. French 24. Euro news etc will give Aljazeera a miss and CNN and see how the grand picture lines up from differing view points  cool2  never know might wake up in the morning and the Russians have invaded  then the juicy bits start to roll out, see who is crying and who is puffing out their chests etc  lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Should The Russian government stand to charges of indecent liberties ?   Sat Mar 01, 2014 12:29 pm









With the politicans weighing in with varying view points, in this one senator John McCain
a republican former navy pilot and pow vietnam war and the son of an admiral .

So clearly yer can see we are going to be getting some rather slanted view points. And in some cases ill informed. McCain seems a little on the light hearted side as he uses (a little sabor ratteling) He likes to talk tough politics on military matters. Here he airs on the side wait,watch and don't jump to conclusions.

Clear toned facts on the ground is what we need to see in order to know a little better about just what is going on over the top of it.

McCain for example saw the president as being weak on the Ukraine issues,he thought a week or more ago that the whole situation can just spin completely out of control when it is really at it peak, and the Ukraine president was actually making preperation to abandon. clearly McCain's intell is lacking or it was just excuse to lash out at the democratic president. What yer call sh-t sticking.

But on this one he got it right by labeling the war ship in Cuba a little sabor ratteling indicating a neutral stance.

He did not say something stupid such as oh, Cuba is just a tiny island country
that nobody listens to.Which is sh-t sticking.

Funny to mention about those sh-t sticks, yer can watch politicans being sworn in
standing there with right hand held up high, but never do we see who exactly hands each of them their own personelized sh-t stick to wave around as they stir up the old cess pool hoping that crap will pass as good believable stuff .Food fer the angry mob yer might say.
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