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PostSubject: Slavery now and in the past.   Mon Jan 13, 2014 12:06 am

Iv just been watching an interesting program on CNN documentary about modern day Slavery in Africa  cool2  Yes that's right Africa, seem like Slavery has never left these shores and is still riff even now, infact its booming, and its being kept quite by a Government at its Centre, and that Government is of Mauritania, seems like its an ingrained every day thing to own slaves and use and abuse at will another Human being and no one cares just looks the other way and walks on  Basketball in  the program that I watched a female who was once kept as a slave and managed to escape her captors told how she and many others were regular Beaten and used for sex by her captors and others and all her children were the result of her masters advances same as others she was with, she escaped  and has made a stand against what is now going on but her voice is being suppressed and hushed up by Mauritania's Government and now she fares for her life for speaking out, every on today blames the white man as being behind slavery, not so    Neutral  yes the white man exploited some thing that had been going on for Hundreds of years before the white mans involvement in this sorry Business, seems the white man did not enter the African Bush looking for victims,that was all ready in progress by Black tribesmen them selfs who were more than willing to go and capture victims from other Tribes for profit, the white man was Guilty of purchasing these victims transporting them to far flung lands and selling them into slavery to others,thus populating the Caribbean Islands and other places of today,the white man eventually abolished this trade but even so the trade go's on still in Africa yet the white man still gets the blame even today  Basketball lets not lose sight of the fact that the Romans used slaves, the Arabs used slaves and many say still do today and just about every other Country you could think of all through out History used slaves some still do  Basketball yet its the white mans involvement that attracts the blame, why have the other African Country's the so called African Union not done any thing about this sad state of affairs,then again am I surprised at their lack of interest when they can not or will not do any thing about Mugabe in Zimbabwe antics, and why has the World as we know it today not got together and acted to eradicate this Trade World wide  Basketball Slavery still exists, infact its booming even under our very own noses on our own streets as recent events have made us aware. cool2  cool1
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PostSubject: Re: Slavery now and in the past.   Mon Jan 13, 2014 3:27 am

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I believe your' correct. In my reading it WAS the black man indeed who sold the black man into slavery. Maybe they were part of the loot during tribal wars - and maybe the victorious tribes wanted guns from the white men who invaded or came ashore. The British - Spanish - the dutch - the America's - but how it was "respectable" for Christian men to do this - I don't know.

I guess it came down to money - slaves for cotton picking - coffee/cocoa - sugar.


I believe we will see this in Britain soon - with all low paid jobs being undertaken by those on JSA - only being paid JSA - NOT a real wage.

Nor would it surprise me to have " sweatshops" set up and staffed by those on JSA - for their JSA -

it seems always to come down to money/profit - those who have ready and willing to exploit those who hav'nt.

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PostSubject: Re: Slavery now and in the past.   Mon Jan 13, 2014 6:04 am

Rolling Eyes I be leave you may well be correct in your opinions  for the future Pandora, how ever you may find this an interesting read.



The Barbary slave trade refers to the slave markets that flourished on the Barbary Coast, or modern-day Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia and western Libya, between the 16th and 19th centuries. These markets prospered while the states were nominally under Ottoman rule, but in reality were mostly autonomous. Although the slave markets were filled by peoples from many places, they were distinct from other slave markets because they also sold European slaves, acquired through pirate raids on shipping or coastal towns and villages. About 20,000 British and Irish captives were held in North Africa from the beginning of the 17th century to the middle of the 18th, and roughly 700 Americans were held captive in this region as slaves between 1785 and 1815.[1] The markets declined after the loss of the First and Second Barbary Wars and ultimately ended in the 1830s when the entire area came under French rule.

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PostSubject: Re: Slavery now and in the past.   Mon Jan 13, 2014 6:09 am

The slave trade had existed in North Africa since antiquity, with a supply of African slaves arriving through trans-Saharan trade routes. The towns on the North African coast were recorded in Roman times for their slave markets, and this trend continued into the medieval age. The Barbary Coast increased in influence in the 15th century when the Ottoman Empire took over as rulers of the area. Coupled with this was an influx of Moorish refugees, newly expelled from Spain after the Reconquista. With Ottoman protection and a host of destitute immigrants, the coastline soon became reputed for piracy. Crews from the seized ships were either enslaved or ransomed.
Golden age of Barbary slavery[edit]


Bombardment of Algiers in 1682, by Abraham Duquesne.
After a revolt in the mid-17th century reduced the ruling Ottoman Pashas to little more than figureheads in the region, the towns of Tripoli, Algiers, Tunis and others became independent in all but name. Without a large central authority and its laws, the pirates themselves started to gain much influence. Pirate raids for the acquisition of slaves occurred in towns and villages on the African Atlantic seaboard, as well as in Europe. Reports of Barbary raids and kidnappings of those in Italy, Spain, France, Portugal, England, Ireland, Scotland as far north as Iceland exist from between the 16th to the 19th centuries. It is estimated that between 1 million and 1.25 million Europeans were captured by pirates and sold as slaves in Africa during this time period.[2] Famous accounts of Barbary slave raids include a mention in the Diary of Samuel Pepys and a raid on the coastal village of Baltimore, Ireland, during which pirates left with the entire populace of the settlement. Such raids in the Mediterrean were so frequent and devastating that the coastline between Venice to Malaga[3] suffered widespread depopulation, and settlement there was discouraged. In fact, it was said that this was largely because 'there was no one left to capture any longer'.[4] The power and influence of these pirates during this time was such that nations including the United States of America paid tribute in order to stave off their attacks.[5]  cool2  Basketball 
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PostSubject: Re: Slavery now and in the past.   Mon Jan 13, 2014 6:20 am

"interesting"!!!!

am flabbergasted - I never knew it was on that scale

I admit its shocked me

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PostSubject: Re: Slavery now and in the past.   Mon Jan 13, 2014 9:38 pm

Rolling Eyes Yes I to am taken aback some by this, slavery in the past as well as now is a trade for profit, gain, power at the expense of some unfortunates very existence, mostly all we hear is how it was the Black man/Woman/Child, that was the victims and the White man was responsible for all the suffering and running of  this trade, cool2  yes the White man took part and made financial profit from this trade, white land owners in the Caribbean, American deep South etc made their fortunes from slavery, but lets not forget it was also the White man who said enough was enough and ended this trade, a trade that had gone on unabated for thousands of years before, and now as reported above not only the Black man was taken for slavery but all Nationalities, all races were including White's, yet all we hear is the taking of the Black man by the White man for slavery, maybe  the Black man should look more at their own race who raided African Villages to capture their Brother's and Sister's and sold them into Bondage to any one who wanted them be it the White man, the Arab man, or even the Black man of the Barbary Coast of North Africa, and now as been reported this vile trade still exists in African Mauritania yet as in the past no one seems really to care or some  thing would have been done about it, by as one would have thought by the African Union them selfs if no other  Basketball  slavery still exists in many parts of the World just look at the Child workers of Asia the Child Soldiers, the sex trade in many Country's   including Europe, only recently three women were rescued from a house in London an Irish woman, and an Asian woman and also one thought to have been born in captivity held for over forty years as slaves, and that was here in Britain, makes one wonder just how wide spread this trade still is. Basketball
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PostSubject: Re: Slavery now and in the past.   Tue Jan 14, 2014 5:15 am

There's been a few cases of foreign women either being brought into the U.K illegally and kept imprisoned in homes and used as slaves, and there's been those who have applied to work as au-pairs and have been used as slaves and both situations have included physical abuse as well.

Then you have those that are brought over to be used as prostitutes, and let's not forget the U.K girls who have runaway from home and young women who have been abducted and forced into prostitution....there's been a huge racket going on for a very long time.
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PostSubject: Re: Slavery now and in the past.   Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:01 am

Rolling Eyes Yes  Its old News  that most know is happening yet the various Governments and police forces here and abroad seem oblivious to what is happening right under their very own noses, or are they just unwilling to admit and tackle the situation head on, do they have a reason for this apparent lack of commitment  to address this situation world wide or is there some other reason that they prefer not to divulge to the General public I wonder, or is it just taken for granted that sex sells makes money and forced labour is a bonus to be exploited, taking a long look at the antics of some well known people in seats of power and influence concerning their sexual tendencies and lust for power and wealth might it be that taking any action to combat such carry on's might be a little embarrassing for some concerned  cool2 with out pointing any fingers in any ones direction tho may we just sit back and see who seems to be a little red faced and uneasy and which Country's seem to stand out from the crowd by their silence  Basketball
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PostSubject: Re: Slavery now and in the past.   Fri Jan 17, 2014 7:10 am

Sex slavery, have any of you seen the film The Whistle based on a true story about the FN in Bosnia. At then end of the film, came the truth about certain people. If you havent seen this film give it a try there are a couple of hard scenes. But the film opens your eyes as to whats really going on
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PostSubject: Re: Slavery now and in the past.   Fri Jan 17, 2014 7:13 am

The film The Whistle Blower
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PostSubject: Re: Slavery now and in the past.   Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:08 pm

Rolling Eyes The film Taken is another that shows some insight into this vile trade to  cool2
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