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PostSubject: Should the E.U. deserve Syrian blame.   Fri Dec 13, 2013 11:17 pm

I just been watching the BBC News, a report
by Amnesty International says that the E.U.
should be ashamed for not taking in more
Syrian Refugees etc, i see that this is
directed right at the E.U.'S door, why is
this, Why have other Muslim Oil super rich
Countries like Saudie Arabia, Iran, etc not
come in for a bit of flack, i mean i know
the Situation with these Syrian Refugees is
grim, especialy now since the winter has set
in, and my Heart go's out to all their suffering
but surely Super rich Countries like Saudi etc
have more than enough Money infact far more,
and are more than big enough in land mass to
accommodate these Refugees on their own, so should
not this condemnation be directed in their
direction not towards the E.U., I mean seems
like every time there's violence erupting
with in the Muslim World its the E.U. and America
that gets the bill and then the flack fall out
for failing to go in to sort it out, and even when
we do go in get accused of all manner of things,
isnt it about time these super rich Muslim Countries
recieve some if not all the flack and responsility
for doing some thing politically and Military towards
sorting out their own door steps and dipping their
Lilly soft hands into that bag of Gold they have
and start doing some thing to better the life's of
its Brothers and Sisters instead of jetting of for
pampering sessions in the Casinos spending vast
amounts on gambling, drinking, smoking, cruseing in
their luxury ships, playing the play boy games etc
infact doing every thing that their so called religeon
forbids them to do, like one rule for the people and
no rules for the elite, i think these rulers should
wake up and start to do some thing possitive with
that wealth for the benifit of its peoples, after all
its their money, their wealth not the so called leaders
sole ownership to be spent on fast cars etc, in short
isn't it about time that they became accountable
to its peoples.  Basketball
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PostSubject: Re: Should the E.U. deserve Syrian blame.   Fri Dec 13, 2013 11:25 pm

The fat cats look after their own, has always been the way.
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PostSubject: Re: Should the E.U. deserve Syrian blame.   Fri Dec 13, 2013 11:47 pm

Rolling Eyes Yeah its a kind of theres no room on my Camel  an updated version of theres no room at the INN  cool2
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PostSubject: Re: Should the E.U. deserve Syrian blame.   Wed Dec 18, 2013 8:57 am

I think its a Arab problem, it seems there all running around with the hump, its like Europe gives, and gives and yet a few rich Arabs dont give a ...... how the people of their country are, they should sort it out themselves.
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PostSubject: Re: Should the E.U. deserve Syrian blame.   Sun Dec 22, 2013 10:16 am

Assignment of blame intended to be passed around is like a sudden lightning strike.
In this case the finger pointing perpetrators of the sudden flash are attempting to
factor in a little thunder across the EU sky hoping to make waves. Truth be known
there is no real way to tell where that wave begins or where it ends. Pointing at the EU
is just but a shot in dark. In other words the finger pointers simply jumped on a wave that was already there and in motion. And riding that wave proclaim it begins where it ends. Ground zero being the EU as a whole.
But that is lie. It cannot be proven where it begins or where it ends untill it does end.However that leaves the remaining question-where did it begin.But that holds true only if the end is actually is the end and I say so because that end could also be the beginning point ,not to be confused with new beginnings . This is say the bottom line is asking the right questions.

For example where it begins and where it ends may be beyond our grasp for the time being which could take ages to answer. And so the right question in relation to the big picture question is or may be-,at what point is the cycle of repetition broken and at that point what is the proper course of corrective measures ? Why does China and Russia not open their doors to massive mid eastern migration ? Or is that a dumb question ? Even if it is maybe it's not.
One thing is for certain that will not happen. But why not ?

You see this makes sense because pointing the finger of blame only leads to the greater question and that question is who is going to pay for the said wrongs which of course only serves to escalate that of thee problem on the by and large.  This is to say pointing the finger of blame offers no real solutions ever. Stoking the fire as the saying goes.

But stoking the fires only serves to inflame the issues leaving nothing positive as the flames
smokes out and the stocker serves not.
Putin it seems not only has a bit of a sense of humor come lately allowing himself to be interviewed by as many as 1000 journalists unscripted. He spoke about releasing the band Pussy Riot or pardoning all members as a sign of good will . The Green Peace people they arrested and imprisoned are free as well. Along with a Russian oil monger who became an enemy of the Russian federation's power structure . Politics be as it may but still,this is just a bit of an example that points actually to the one right question mentioned up above-you see, (when is the cycle of repetition broken and at that point what is the proper course to take in applying corrective measures. ) Now than in this case for-instance ,the cycle of the repetition has been broken.  The question now is ,(What will they do with this oppertunity ?)
The oppertunity is all about charting that course and applying corrective measures. Now then those finger pointers ,those stockers of the migration fire did not influence or help in any way this thing that recently occured. But the flame seekers can and do sometimes ruin a positive force in the making.

Putin may speak about the issues of the topic at hand , And I doubt he or they will agree with the flame throwing finger pointers .And that leaves the question and the problem with migrants right where it came from -what to do about it ? Has Russia no connection to Europe ? Or is it really about bennifits because at some point it does all come at a cost. Is China still over populated ?

How long do you think it might be before the Pussy Riot band is back to making music ?

Imagine if migrants will have been allowed to come in. than imagine containment camps where upon the migrants were placed in containment camps untill the EU were able to squabble about politically as to how placement of the refugees will come about. And how many this country will take and how many that country will take and on and so on and those banks. And now the finger pointers and flame throwers are tell'en it that those containment camps are inhumain.So free them all now. Right now. But it just doesn't really work that way.And there really is boarders.

BBC has an article up on the release of the first Pussy Riot member and already
she tells the press the whole thing is a PR scam aimed at promoting the olympics ! She
even went so far as to say she will have rather stayed in prison.
I should wonder if Russian brewmasters are in the process of creating a new beer for the olympic games-Olympia PR BEER !

You really have to wonder how the other thousands to be released think about it.
One thing is for certain,- when political paranoia and free speech is on a crash course ,that will tend to create commotion.

Indeed a frosty mug of Olympic PR BEER with Russian Rye bread.















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PostSubject: Re: Should the E.U. deserve Syrian blame.   Tue Dec 24, 2013 1:26 am

Rolling Eyes That's a good point Niagra why do we not hear any thing about immigrants and Refugees heading in the numbers they do to the West to Russia etc, I mean Russia has a land mass that could easily accommodate  every one and the Country is rich enough, but then again they would get help from the West as well if needed, makes one wonder why this Human flow from Africa and the Middle east don't head East instead of West I wonder why.  Basketball
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PostSubject: Re: Should the E.U. deserve Syrian blame.   Thu Dec 26, 2013 7:58 am

I was impressed with Holland as they said unofficialy they would boycot the olympics if the Greenpeace people wernt released. I still say the Arab problem is for the Arabs to sort out. As for the Pussy group, give the girl credit, she said  on her release it was just because the olympics were around the corner
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PostSubject: Re: Should the E.U. deserve Syrian blame.   Thu Dec 26, 2013 8:12 am

Rolling Eyes The only problem the Arabs have are other Arabs the peace dove was shot down and eaten Centuries ago, even the Romans gave up with them so is it any wonder even the Camels have the Hump with them to. Basketball
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PostSubject: Re: Should the E.U. deserve Syrian blame.   Tue Dec 31, 2013 12:49 pm

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OK so, the puzzel now begins to take shape. The U.S. is sending a rush order supply of arms over to Iraq -the situation over there is in rapid decline .Suicide bombers are on the attack in Russia. And over in Seria the war is flamming on.

Now than to the issue of the Pussy Riot band ,all of whom have had their sentences commuted. One member of the Pussy Riot band did call it out as a PR scam but little does she know how big a pr scam it will become. Make no mistake about it suicider bombers are and have been a pressing issue in the federation of Russia and it comes with little surprise to those in power that the suicider scum would go on the attack just when the Russian federation is preparing to entertain the world as hosts of the winter olympic games .

We shall see if Putin is as good a politican as he wish's to be. Now than the terrorist goals by these most recent bombing in Russia is to create wide spread fear and very much psychological damage to as many people in the world as possible. And as yer's know the olympic games are a world wide event. And clearly the world knows just what those scumbags are trying to do -there is no brillant plan -they just round up the narcissists ,and point them in the direction of death loaded down with explosives.

But fear and doubt have been planted. The scumbags hope what they planted will take root.
Putin has issues that are somewhat explosive as well. Human rights is of those issues.
The powers that be in the Russian federation need to act fast in order to tamp down the explosive issues they face plus the new issue with suicide bombers.

The question is does Putin have what it takes to ask the Pussy Riot band for help ?
Is the picture not clear yet ? Musicans like to preform and to do so an audience is required.
Now in the christmas story thread I did make mention of Rudolf the Red Nosed raindeer kicking santa claus in the shins ,than calling him a mean old bast-rd than running off into the sky heading in the direction of Russia to seek asylum.OK so, do  you remember what Santa Claus said to Rudolf the red nosed raindeer on one foggy christmas eve ?

Yer guessed it- Rudolf with yer nose so bright ,won't you guide my slaigh tonight.
A national disaster has happened in Russia ,can Russia ask and would the Pussy Riot band except the challange ? There is more to unfold but we will just let it unfold !
Does Putin have the courage to over step the hard liners  ? A small window has opened in Russia-it's a small little window that nobody pays any attention to ,but if they do ,it may be the best thing they can do for themselfs and the Russian people.

If yer not sure what it's about yet let me make this perfectly clear, !
The powers that be in the Russian federation really must reassure the confidence of the incoming visitors as well as the participants in the winter olympics but that's not all, they must also restore the peoples faith in their own changing government. The Pussy Riot band can serve as good will ambassadors as they preform at the opening or at some point at the olympic games. That would serve to deliver a blow to the hard liner powers that be and at the same time demonstrate change in government. If those hardliners don't do something to restore the peoples faith in government,they are all screwed and that would cause a riot .

Call that a pet project !
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PostSubject: Re: Should the E.U. deserve Syrian blame.   Tue Dec 31, 2013 10:50 pm

Rolling Eyes Sending them even more arm's and ammo  Shocked Havant they got enough all ready that part of the World is awash with arm's and all things that go bang  cool2  they are all hooked on violence just like a Heroin junky is hooked on drugs, some are even on the hard stuff and go blow them self's up in hair brained idea fostered by those that call them self's Müllers (i.e. priests ) telling them that if they do so and kill, then they will go to Heaven, to be blest by Allah and be rewarded with afew virgins to muck around with and live in Paradise.   Shocked   Yeah and striped pink monkeys will be flying around the sky dressed like superman singing Blue moon  Suspect  how many of those Müllers are so taken by their so called faith that they go take the plunge and blow them self's up and go take that Trip to Paradise I ask  Basketball  im sorry but im not on my own but I think that they should all take  their Mosques and shove them, they are not in the least bit tolerant of other religions Christians and others are routinely attacked and killed and places of worship destroyed by them what if the boot was put on the other foot and we started to attack their Mosques and drop one on them at the time of the Haj in Meca, how would they feel  cool2  prity pizzzed  I would have thought  Basketball  we here and in Europe as a whole are in my opinion only storing up Huge trouble for the future by allowing them to keep flooding here for ever building those arm stores they call Mosques were they Brain wash the young with their fundamentalist preaching's calling all us lot the unbelievers the enemy  of Islam yet they all seem to prefer to live among us and seem to enjoy all things that they are forbidden to them in Islamic lands so is it no wonder they like it here, the day that old Enoch Powel  predicted is fast approaching I can feel it in my old bones, there be Trouble Big Trouble brewing for the future and our young one's are the ones who are going to be on the front line as the old ones die of, may God help them. Basketball
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PostSubject: Re: Should the E.U. deserve Syrian blame.   Wed Jan 01, 2014 8:58 am

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Putin vows to annihilate terrorist's. BBC article.

There are various posions used to ridd our gardens of those dispicable terrorist weeds.
Somehow those weeds tend to keep popping up from time to time. Again there is a small opening in a window that nobody really pays any attention to ,but in this case they really need to become tentative to the offering the small opening offers.
In order to hit those weeds hard at the core it is indeed necessary to strike at the source.
The terrorist operatives do not create suicide bombers in test tubes or through artificial insemination. and it it does stand to reason in order to put out the message that message must reach the source or what is known as the supply line.

Poison chokes out those weeds through the supply line. Now than the russian political hard liners are not ammune to political paranoia. And the band Pussy Riot spread some of that through out that hammers fist. That is why they were imprisoned. As to the name riot or fear of such.

But hardliners are stupid in that they are fixed in a hard line belief system inforced by force,meaning hard liners believe their beiefs are law and in some or many cases make it so.

This makes it impossible for hardliners to think outside their hard liner box's. They believe strong arm force is the solution to any and every outside force any group or gorups will dare to apply. And that force applied by the hardliners during the cold war turned into a national problem spread throughout the soviet union which is and was paranoia ,peoples fear turned to paranoia and drunkeness to quash out the paranoia. That became a grave and most dangerous problem through-out the soviet union brought down upon the people by those hard liners and those hard liners have only themselves to blame for it.

But back to the source of this problem with suicide bombers and terrorist operatives.
Since those suiciders do not come of artificial insemination or test tubes clearly that source is through the natural biological process the same as chickens lay eggs.

Do they make babies so those babies become terrorists ? That answer as we know is in some cases that is exactly what they do ,in some cases.And so in those cases those woman are nothing more than vehicles of transport to those that have use of the product.About like chicken ranchers raise chickens for food.Ah, you know roast chicken and eggs.

But those vehicles do not know what that is on that level in it because they are all brain washed or forced into a belief system which is also law.Under that circumstance it is forced production.

Now than it stands to reason why it is Russian federation hard liners will not see the value of a good old fashion pussy riot where such a riot could serve the greater good in the long run. Ah, you might call that spring cleaning. Arab spring cleaning to be precise.A wake up call.

Yes of a kind the band Pussy Riot may be of a position to ignite.You see those vehicles serve greedy masters not just as objects of desire but as vehicles for objects of their desires which as is so happens is suiciders in the making.It is after all, all about psychological warfare. And the direct target is also the indirect target.
Which means it has a lot to do or everything to do with womans issues.

You see Pussy Riot.
And it is a war indeed.

And targeting the supply line is way to go.What you might call an awareness riot.Bringing out the truth front and center.

At the same time those Russian hardliners still have the long term effects to deal with where it is about paranoia having been instilled deep within the populas which also brought on a nation wide drunkeness and none of that has gone away or ceased to exist. And those terrorist operatives are not responsible for that. But you can very easialy see exactly what those sucumbags are spinning off of. Stoking the fire,raising the flames.

It's time for a 21 st. century psychological revision.
And psychological warfare is indeed hell too.


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PostSubject: Re: Should the E.U. deserve Syrian blame.   Wed Jan 01, 2014 9:29 am

Rolling Eyes Islamists are a fixated breed so fixated in their belief of a miss directed mind set that they only see any that don't tow their own version of a perfect world as being an enemy, as such no amount of pussy footing around with them trying to put some sort of reason to things is just futile effort on the part of those that think they can reason with these people, they see all but them selfs as enemies of Islam and that even includes fellow Muslims who stand next to them in prayer in the Mosques that don't support being Radicalized into their way of thinking, this also extends to those whose worship differs slightly yet are fellow Muslims i.e. shier, and Sunni Muslims who regular bomb kill and maim each other and often even desecrate their own Mosques, those very places that they build for prayer  to Allah  by blowing them up and staining their walls with the blood of the innocent, and they even are known to use such places of worship to store weapons of war is that what devotion to God is to these people, then they call Allah the merciful one the loving one, well it don't take some one with much Brain power to see the irony in that dose it, surly the women of Islam and even the men of Islam after seeing so much needless death of loved ones even down to their Children can see the futility of it all, is it so much to ask that every one be allowed to just live their allotted life span with out looking over their shoulders all the time in  peace and be allowed to raise their respective family's with love in their Hearts not Hate, and be allowed to believe or not to believe or choose what they truly believe or not, is it not every one's right to do so, a belief that your told to be leave in from birth at the penalty of death if you don't or even change  faith is not a true belief  is it, but Brain washing at its rawest.  Basketball
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PostSubject: Re: Should the E.U. deserve Syrian blame.   Wed Jan 01, 2014 9:41 am

It comes down to the supply line and finding ways to choke it out.cut off the supply line and you destroy the enemy.There is no quick fix . And you cannot bomb the problem back into the stone ages.Breaking down the enemies psychological defences.suicide bombings are all about psychological warfare and long term lasting effects.

The one fear terrorists operatives have is the fear of change. Change equals the death of them all. And it is a slow ,timely death of the worst possible kind.
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PostSubject: Re: Should the E.U. deserve Syrian blame.   Wed Jan 01, 2014 10:00 am

Rolling Eyes That is so Niagra, and the change must be made by those most effected, only when constant war and death in the name of a so called religion one that is suppose to profess to being loving and  mercy full and a Tolerance of others beliefs different to  their own will a peace be in the offering, but it takes a will to achieve this by the people them self's and not by those that profess Hate and teach such in places of worship, to teach hate and  death are only the Teachings of Satan, its said were there's good there is also evil so it figures that were there's light there's the dark side, look within your self's find what is hidden within yourselves good or evil, light or dark  cool2
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PostSubject: Re: Should the E.U. deserve Syrian blame.   Thu Jan 02, 2014 8:20 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Should the E.U. deserve Syrian blame.   Fri Jan 03, 2014 6:25 am

Rolling Eyes Chicken soup is Ok but iv had Scotch Broth tonight Niagra  it ends when the last spoon full comes out mouth and the bowl explodes with hottish water a fairy liquid washing up detergent  cool1
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PostSubject: Re: Should the E.U. deserve Syrian blame.   Sun Jan 05, 2014 2:22 am

Beaver. I think non European countries do take them, we just dont hear about it, but wether there treated as good as they are in Europe, is a different story, i once heard people talking  that Russia had problems with somalien refughees, as many of them didnt know how to fit in to the socity.
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PostSubject: Re: Should the E.U. deserve Syrian blame.   Wed Jan 08, 2014 8:00 pm

That's just my point stumpy, other Countrys far from their own are taking them when there are Countrys  big enough wealthy enough on their door step so  to speak who are more than willing to just let these people pass through their land and on into Europe, the whole point in being a refugee is to take  refuge in the next nearest safe Country until its safe to return to their own, I don't see  how the next nearest safe Country means travelling half way around the World in a lot of cases, refugee I think not, economic refugee more like who just think they have the right to march into any Country they want to as a right and by pass applying to emigrate to the intended destination like every one else has to,this is some thing that just has to be clamped down  on as its just got way out of hand. cool2
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PostSubject: Re: Should the E.U. deserve Syrian blame.   Thu Jan 09, 2014 7:46 am

Beaver i know a refugee, since being in Denmark, he has had 6 chilren, and now he has been given a Danish passport, that means when his children are 18 in about 4 years time, they are going to use their EU passport to come to England many Africans dont get any kind of work, as they are content to recieve social security, and with child allowance, thats a nice tidy sum
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