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PostSubject: Madeleine McCann case    Sun May 19, 2013 6:11 am

The Daily Mail had a article and it looks as though UK authorities have turned up plenty of leads . But the authorities of Portugal refuse to reopen the case because of the wide spread corruption running rampent throughout their country.

There are plenty of names on the suspect listing and I have no doubt the ousted chief of detectives who was in charge of the case is one of those who fell to suspicion.

On the political end of it the McCann's raised red flags in political arena over there in Portugal and fear spread through all political channels as a result on unwanted world wide attention and the fear of. . The tourism industry accounts for very much money in revenue in a country that is hard pressed and corrupt as all hell.

According to the article in the Daily Mail the McCann's are very pleased with the ongoing investigation being conducted by the authorities of the UK.

The potential loss in tourism in Portugal in certain localities was the motivating factor in what is noted to be one of the worst investigations conducted in a child kidnapping case .The investigation on the part of the authorities of Portugal was all about dirty tricks and wide spread political and criminal corruption .

The authorities of Portugal fear world wide attention being brought back into their domain.

Even the Attorney General of Portugal confessed to the wide spread corruption in Portugal when he said-he doesn't think there is a phone in Portugal that isn't phone tapped by the criminal element in Portugal which has strong ties to government.

I think the former ousted chief of detectives in charge of the case is a sex offender himself.Noting that sex offenders found a place to be free in Portugal.And that is a point to fact.A fact that received some coverage but not nearly enough. That very vacation spot is or was also a safe haven for sex offenders . And that is not something that would be available for review in the  the travel agencies advertising literature.And I wouldn't be surprised at all if a travel agent is involved in some way with the kidnapping.

The super rich can buy whatever they want and a natural biological child with what will be seen as perfect genes would be a tall order.

The chain of pay offs would stretch far wide.But when money is no object ,distance is no object either.

The chain of corruption would be stretching far and wide in such a case secnario

It is believed by the authorities of the UK that Madeleine McCann may be alive and well.


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PostSubject: Re: Madeleine McCann case    Sun May 19, 2013 7:09 am

The phone tapping issues of corruption in by the criminal element which has strong ties of the political power structure in Portugal is no small ordeal.When you consider the criminal network ties and you have heard the saying word travels fast-consider through phone tapping out of control in Portugal an operation that is run by the criminal element in Portugal compare to black market and commodities='s goods bought and sold through unauthorised means.The criminal black market.

Picture a flapping mouth travel agent setting up the deal over the phone answering pointed questions about the McCann party.
Information by the way is also a commodity that holds monetary value and there is a thing called extended professional courtisies which translate to monetary gain in some fashion or other.
Do not think the business of tourisum is all about clean business which means it has it's dark side.

And so question remaining is not just where will it end but where did it begin.
I don't think the former ousted chief of detectives was under political pressure at the begining when the the case was botched through very very poor handling of the crime scean which was intentional -those cops were instructed to screw up the crime scean by the chief of detectives.This lead into the suspicion that the chief of detectives was payed off to not just look the other way about the doings happening about his turff, but to also run interfearence in the course of the police investigation which further indicates he were part of the crime himself. And since he is known woman hater and abuser-it will stand to reason such a scumbag would have a certain kinship with outcasted sex offenders and molesters.

There are on going cases where politicans have those kinds kinships-a few are molesters.And so the insinuation is not at all far stretched-in fact it is a reality.But for the authorities of Portugal to go there would be far more than they can handle inso far as world wide interest. Not to mention their tourism industry would collapse and all that revenue would cease to exist. That would or will be a political nightmare for the authorities of Portugal.

Call that the dark light.


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PostSubject: Re: Madeleine McCann case    Sun May 19, 2013 8:34 pm

Niagra i wouldnt be supprized if what you've writen is not all to true,and not just there nether,i think this sort of thing is riff across most of not just Europe but most of the World also,i mean just look at all the report's of child and Adult abduction's sexual assult's etc that's repeatedly coming to light,and all the well known people that seem to be tard with some sort of sexual alligation,i think as you do that a lot is being swept under the carpet,and the trueth of thing's is being hidden by some who have thing's themself's that they would rather not become public knollage.We live in a seedy World no mistake. Neutral
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PostSubject: Re: Madeleine McCann case    Mon May 20, 2013 7:52 am

At this stage in the case it is clear only political diplomatic pressure will serve to convince the authorities of Portugal to cooperate in what will become a joint investigation but that requires an open book policy-that equals transparency. The thing of it is the chain of corruption in Portugal trails forge pathways to each and every aspect of Portugals governing body-and than futher into those who put those politicans where they are='s the rich and powerfull. That means the chain of corruption in Portugal is endless and so because of that transparency isn't an option in Portugal. What that means is the authorities of Portugal will only show the authorities of the Uk what they want the authorities of the UK to see and no more. And that happens to be just how sex offenders operate. They only show you what they want you to see.


And where they don't want you see or know of is just where those corrupt bastards will run interfearence in any outside investigative organization be it the Government of the UK or the privet sector.

However given the magnitude in it, it may be turn out as you seem to indicate Beaver that the authorities of the UK may be on to a international child abduction ring and if that is the case than there are plenty of ways to get around the authorities of Portugal .

There are after all plenty of recources to be pooled togather if it turns out to be a international operation. given Portugal became a safe haven for sex offenders -clearly the blame would be assigned there down in the lows which where it would have been assigned except for the McCann's going to the public which was a very smart move.

However it cost them dearly.
I recall feeling relieved when I read the McCann's were on the plane and off the grounds of Portugal. At that point in it is when my views to it were expressed.

You know they had to come on with a law suit against the press to get a damn apology out of those corrupt bastards.The London Times was first in line to publish a formal apology to the McCann's for all those dirty tricks they pulled to sell the fabricated news.

In the end it is not surprising that the chief of detectives became the fall guy knowingly. As the case became more and more political he was guy who did their dirty work. and as is tippical the authorities of portugal threw him under the bus. What is a hard fact is that ousted chief of detectives was never investigated. So he lost his job and than wrote a book. The political fall guy, the servent.


The last place they would think to investigate is way down there in the lows ,right where that ousted chief of detectives has a certain kinship with those low life sex offenders /molseters woman haters.





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PostSubject: Re: Madeleine McCann case    Mon May 20, 2013 8:24 am

For a corrupt bastard such as that ousted chief of detectives in Portugal ,if you look at that scumbag having been payed off to look the other way about what was cooking in the criminal element on his turff,
should the McCann's have simply kept a low profile and left the investigation be completely handled by the authorities of Portugal in their locality at that time-,,
THE CASE will have become a open and shut unsolved mystery .blame will have been assigned down in the lows, aka some sex offender did it and ran off with her end of.

And of course the ousted chief of detectives will have claimed that all investigative avenues ran into dead ends assuring the greater public that everything that could be done to find the kidnapper was done .

That will have been the optimal conclusion to the case politically for the authorities of Portugal and from criminal element stand point -the perfect place to do the crimes.

I have no doubt the authorities of Portugal will remain reluctant and paranoid untill it all caves in around them.And eventually it will one way or another.



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PostSubject: Re: Madeleine McCann case    Mon May 20, 2013 8:46 am

It became clear to me early on in the case that the ousted the chief of detectives over there in Portugal is most likely a narcissistic sociopath.
We do know it is standard police proceedure to first investigate those closest to crime victim. That of course would be the McCann's. In a normal police investigative practice the objective is to rule out suspects. That scumbag never did that. He locked on to his sick perverted theory like a bull dog locks it's jaw on it's preay. But why though?

Later we find that guy has serious issues about woman. He's a hater.


Narcissistic sociopaths are all about reversing the blame into others. They believe they can committ perfect crimes. It would be a difficult thing to imagine a member a law inforcement thinking he is smarter and far too reputable to be considered a suspect unless you see a narcissistic sociopath.

There and right there is that certain kinship the ousted chief of detectives has for those sex offenders molesters woman haters.
Their are of survival is all about hiding /concealing the true nature of what they are.

Yes it does make sense that the ousted chief of detectives is involved in the crime for monentary gain and hate is his reason for it.
His book deal must have gained him plenty of gratification .
A true predator he is.

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PostSubject: Re: Madeleine McCann case    Mon May 20, 2013 9:29 am

So, if than the ousted chief of detectives is actually part of the crime by pay off, that the question arises how much money would that be given what his tasks were in the operation/kidnap plan. ?

Early on the investigative proceedure was being botched -intentionally screwed up -dumb bell cops meandering about the crime scene touching thing,moving things around ,just being stupid bumbling fumbling idiots.And in that time frame the perpetrator/perpetrators were getting further and further away from the crime scene. THE FIRST FIVE HOURS.

In those first five police hours plus the time it took for those cops to respond to the innicial report of a missing child is how much in time and distence? I can tell you it does not take much of a mathematician to figure that one out.

I never did buy the poor card coming out of Portugal. Shallow copolla resources.The ah, rubber hose with lead in the end of it .Old style interrigation tactics-aka beat a confession out of a suspect.I always suspected the case was botched from the the very beginning intentionally which further leads to the suspicion that certain key individuals in places of police authority must have been involved in the kidnapping. Because the case was botched befor it had become a formal case.Befor the the child was reported missing.

We know that money talks and bull **** walks and we know the ousted chief of detectives did indeed walk because he was ousted.

So consider what his pay off amounted to for being part of the crime consider it may have been quite substantial .But how would that cop use that money -or a lot of it? After all he's just a cop.

A cop who was quick to write a book.
And of course you know his being a cop in such a corrupt place -Portugal and all-you must consider that cop would know of all kinds of ways to launder dirty money. And he also knows he is being looked at. You just have to wonder what his book roylities amount to.

Perhaps not much at all eh ?

One thing is for certain narcissistic sociopaths never ever form a perfect long term crime plan. They think they can but they can't.
They are after all thier own worst enemies.
somewhere along the line he shot himself in the foot. It is just a matter of time befor that shot he took is uncovered.



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PostSubject: Re: Madeleine McCann case    Mon May 20, 2013 11:07 am

As you recall the top politican in Portugal was also acting as president of the E.U. And of course money matters form country to country were at the top of order of business. That and paying back loans.
Of course the poorer countries always need more and the last thing Portugal needed at that time was falling to global scrunity. Believe that political panic spread through the vains of every political player in Portugal.

And what they did and how they dealt with the global concern over the McCann kidnapping is exactly what the kidnappers or those who orchestrated the kidnapping expected. And the media profiteering the way it did was also expected. All of it must have figured into the kidnap plan. Basically Portugal was the optimal location to do the crime. It offered the the very least in the risk factor ,that being the crime being traced back to it's originator.Or those people the child was deivered to.And if thats the case she may very well be alive and well. Because a beatuiful child with what is considered perfect genes is a tall order if say someone or someones are very very rich and cannot conceive and have every specific requirements about the order.changing dippers doesn't figure in. What you call a simply must have at a very particular age.

The ousted chief of detectives is a known woman hater so since the child is a female to that x cop she was of no consequence-insignificant.

That was his attitude.And that was the attitude of the cops he were suppos'ed to be heading up. Apparently they had a very different agenda, one that is as corrupt as it gets.

Cops botch cases all the time,we know that. But not the way this one was.

The chain of corruption stretches far and wide.

Why is that ousted chief of detectives so sure they will never tie him to it? Is it maybe because he knows too much about those in high places who are corrupt to the core? Does he think that he can pull them all down too if they use him as the scape goat ?

It's an interesting question .It is also a curious question.



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PostSubject: Re: Madeleine McCann case    Mon May 20, 2013 5:34 pm

I just hope they find her alive.
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PostSubject: Re: Madeleine McCann case    Tue May 21, 2013 4:45 am

Theres a good chance they will find her at some point in time, just look what happened in the USA with those three women. Just hope the poor girl dosent have to go through the same ordeal
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PostSubject: Re: Madeleine McCann case    Tue May 21, 2013 5:35 am

The authorities of Portugal have demonstrated to some degree that they will be cooperative with the authorities of UK and it's renewed investigation of the McCann kidnapping case. Upon reviewing the case handling scouring through the paper trail of Portugal's investigative proceedure the authorities of the UK were astounded at the very many holes in Portugal's investigation. Article May 19th. 2013 Daily mail.

But the truth of he matter is the case was botched befor the child was reported missing. And that is the undiscovered hole they must uncover.

The key to the solving the case is inside those first five hours starting at the point of abduction.The fact of the matter is those cops were not looking for the child . The crime scene was intentionaly screwed up by bumbling fumbling idiots sent there to take the verbal report -a team a fools sent there by the ousted chief of detectives himself. That particular time frame is critical to the investigation because as those fools in cop uniforms were meandering about screwing up the crime scene wasting time ,the kidnappers counted on that time to get far enough away to pass the child on to the next phase of the kidnap operation.

Again had the McCann's not gone to the greater global public ,blame will simply been assigned down into the lows-meaning one or or group of sex offenders ran off with the child case closed. It was reported during the case that registered sex offenders found Portugal to be a sex offender friendly place to be. They do not have to report to police about their offences and are not bothered by police for being sex offenders,rapists or molesters.
And there is just where blame will have been assigned -the offecial reporting out of Portugal will have been-a sex offender most likely abducted the child -molested,raped than murdered the child -than discarded the body in a unknown location than most likely flead Portugal.

It is reasonable to suspect that explanation was ready made befor the kidnap went down.That further indicates a highly sophisticated ,well finaced operation ='s money to spread around.

It will all come down to those first five hours and all that wasn't done and why what should have been done wasn;t.

Althogh there are many holes in the investigation,-That's the hole in the case that need be located. That's the hole in it that lead investigators to the money trail.



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PostSubject: Re: Madeleine McCann case    Tue May 21, 2013 5:52 am

Lets hope it's a case of a child being snatched for a childless couple who desperately wanted a child, to think that she has been through an horrific ordeal like those girls or even worse.... No
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PostSubject: Re: Madeleine McCann case    Tue May 21, 2013 6:23 am

Yes Lady G. That very thought gives hope that the child is alive,well and cared for.

And the crime theory is a good one.
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PostSubject: Re: Madeleine McCann case    Tue Jun 18, 2013 6:24 am

An the news today the Yard is looking and digging back there in Portugal- it appears the case has been reopened by Scotland Yard. It looks as though the authorities of Portugal are still very much caught up in blind stubborn refusal to establish joint cooperation down the avenues of revisiting the case. 

Again the chain of corruption in Portugal knows no bounds ,as was said publicly by the the attorney general of Portugal-there is no phone untapped by the criminal element in Portugal.That in a statement is not all about the big brother thing -it is corruption of the very worst kind.


As the saying goes in the sinking ship just befor it takes the plunge-every man for himself-, all those currupt are connected by the very same fabric -

That means to look at the case in full will fully expose the chain of corruption to it;s highest levels in the political arena.
The authorities of Portugal being reluctant is far too kind a word to put over on it.

There politically it is all about unwanted attention being brought back to them. 

The authorities of portugal are looking at a volcano that is showing signs of activity that indicate an erruption may be imminent at some point in time. But they look at it as though the ship has a series of leaks that they must shore up. The fact is you cannot put a cork in the mouth of the volcanno to stop the erruption or slow it's course of action.

The wire taps.The last thing they want over there in Portugal to happen is outsiders having a look at the wire tapping what is out of control . And one very particular hot wire.You see the real question is when exactly did the kidnappers or those who orchestrated the kidnap know of the McCann party vacation plans?

Chances are befor the vacation package was bought and paid for -still in the planning process.
That means word traveled long befor the vacation started.

The Hot wire..
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PostSubject: Re: Madeleine McCann case    Thu Jun 20, 2013 6:08 am

The Hot Wire.


CNN has a story up and it has a video captured of a volcanic eruption in an area just south east of Mexico city,a location of one of the worlds most active volcanos.

The imagery I found to be most interesting. In viewing it-,the video,you can see massive black clouds rising out of the mouth of the volcano moving upwards above the existing cloud cover.

The dark buffer zone over the existing cover over. 
There are reasons the authorities of Portugal remain stubborn about reopening the McCann kidnapping case and I have no doubt those reasons are as dark as it gets. 

The cover over the cloud cover ,those dark clouds.
But the reason those dark clouds emerged is due to a very very hot eruption-volcanic activity.

Things are heating up.
Powerful imagery.

The thing about people who live close to volcanos is kind of funny, in the event of a possible or probable erruption, persons are advised to evacuate. In some cases local residents are slow to respond. The advisement becomes a standing order and the evacuation order is taken far more seriously. But still there are those that remain stubbornly. The volcano spits out some hot stuff and the flow begins, than the people start runnng away form it as fast as they can. Except for the few ,those few that refused to leave their homes. They are taken in the volcanos wake.

Back in the 1980's Mt. Saint Helen's volcano errupted ,it was massive and forewarned.Nobody thought that old inactive volcano would ever errupt. For many of the local residents of the area it was too terible of a thing to believe it could happen-so they refused to believe it. They even got the governor to rescind the evacuation order. And what a trememdous mistake that turned out to be.
Those few of mention-the few that remained even after it became perfectly clear that a massive erruption was imminent -hours or minutes away- those few remained in that blind stubborn refusal.Those on the run at the last minute were running with their prized possessions. Odd isn't it? Things-stuff worth risking life for- but they do that.

And those that remained behind were destroyed by -well, fire along with everything else in the path of the volcano's wrath. 

And yes-the entire local econemy was destroyed.And that in and of itself is a story to be told. The tourist industry. 
The area was a vacation hot spot frequented by Hollywood stars.AND THEIR PRIVACY was highly guarded by the entire community because the tourist trade held up the local econemy in fact.


When all was lost,it wasn't just home and all possessions -it was everything in the world to them.

Except for those few that remained in that old blind stubborn refusal. 
Why would they choose to be swallowed up in the hot lava you ask ? That question remains today and will continue to remain forever. Tis baffeling indeed.




Blind stubborn refusal is just that. 
But in the case of those that are corrupt to the core in positions of authority in Portugal- there is nowhere to run or hide.

So they wait and watch and hope it will blow over. As was said up thread-there is no way to insert a cork into the mouth of the volcano in attempt to stop or defuse the erruption.



The cover over the cover over the cover up.
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PostSubject: Re: Madeleine McCann case    Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:33 pm

Latest news regarding the case is there are 38 persons of interest
investigative authorities in the Uk want to interview in direct connection to the kidnapping. 38 POI's that were not considered persons of interest by the authorities of Portugal when the authorities of Portugal were conducting what they claim was a thorough investigation.Apparently the new information was collected from various sources in and including privet detection agencies involved in the search for the child.

It shouldn't be too much longer before the truth about the fact that the authorities of Portugal were far more interested in making the case go away-put it to sleep as the saying goes in that newspaper business. Part of that may very well be because the McCanns refused to hole up somewhere remaining meek and silent awaiting word form investigative authorities .
They reached out to the greater public because nothing was really being done about it . And that became Portugals political nightmare. But the political nightmare was not Portugal's alone and thats key.

I seriously suspect that number will eventually far exceed 38.
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PostSubject: Re: Madeleine McCann case    Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:32 am

As much as i hate to say it. I doubt very much it will ever be known what happened to little Madeleine. And the parents have to live with the knowledge it totally should not even have happened. You dont leave your own children, or even let them out of your sight at that age. I mean what the hell were they thinking? Rolling Eyes 
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PostSubject: Re: Madeleine McCann case    Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:15 am

I see what you are getting at. At the same time I know it is impossible to watch over children's every move. From what I have read although some may disagree, the McCann party had a pretty good watch over arrangement -they took turns looking in on the children and the distance between the children and the dinning area does not even equal the distance between a dinning room and childrens rooms in a very large home. I am aware that the laws in the UK are about that are very different than the laws in the USA. Kids don't call the cops on their parents when they are disciplined fer be'en bad in school or anywhere else. And kids a spanked when bad too. It''s perfectly exceptable as it were once upon a time in the UK.We do have child protection services though.

Actually I think the travel agency did a very poor job on their research of the vacation spot. And I am sure that -,that vcation spot in Portugal billed itself in advertising as a perfectly safe place for the family vacation.

Seriously now, a sex offender child molester safe haven ? Let me ask this- do think midnight-tiger that the travel agents informed the McCann party that sex offenders are known to find an almost political asylum in Portugal ? Here is their law-so long as they do not break any laws in Portugal ,they are free to be where they choose and do what they please without have to report to authorities about their past crimes .

Now than- did anybody of authority inform the McCann's or the MacCann about that ? Or was it it a gray area-you know,don't tell even if they ask .

So, given the place was billed as a quite ,plesent ,safe ,warm,vacation spot hide away-which means it was all lies,billed mean advertised as ,and vacation booking agents are expected to know what they are selling or billing -it seems to me the dirty truth was covered up from the get go by all connected to the tourist industry.

There is absolutely no excuse to be fronted about that sick twisted chief of detectives who in my opinion excepted a pay off to look the other way when the perpatraitors committed the crime and further run interfearence in the investigation.

OK, so the whole thing was set up.

6 years later the case is on the way to being reopened and it shall take considerable political pressure before the authorities of Portugal allow outside authorities to see just what went down. Yes, it's about lifting the lid on what went down.

From 12 poi's to question in connection to the case escalated to 38 in just but a month -wut's in those numbers I ask .


There was much going on in the ambassadorships too you know. Lots and lots of very important very influenical people were applying pressure in the right places. You know well off families have their children off jet setting about the planet and this child abduction hit home in every home.

It is time for transparency in Portugal.

It is hard not to think about terrorists operatives seeking revenge for the botched terrorist plots in London and at the airport in Scottland.

Than there was that taxi driver wacko that wanted to give his 5 0r 6 year old daughter over to the the terrorist opperaives to cook and clean for them and serve in whatever other way.


It is looking more as though a international child abduction ring is behind the kidnapp.
They can always find scumbags to inniciate the crime-='s do the kidnapp than pass the child.

If you look at Snowden-the guy that is seemimgly holed up at the airport in Moscow without a passport because it was revolked. Well,what the authorities of Portugal tried to do was kind of like that. If say the McCanns had fled Portugal because they knew the authorities would try to stick the blame on them instead of investigating -because the McCann's would not stop appealing to the greater global public which was causing Portugal considerable political embarrassments , it will have looked as though they were guilty . And by staying in Portugal they ran the risk on incarceration and much humiliation.

Now than lets look at the ownners of the tourist resort and the kind of political pressures behind the scenes they were applying. This is about profit and to the profit bearer that is all that matters just like Scrooge said.

Not to mention the local economy and how the global public concern effects the tourist industry throughout Portugal.

Then there is the out of control criminal element in Portugal which has it's influences in political circuits.

And the wheels keep spinning.

However I do believe there is HOPE.

fnn The telephone tapping is also key.





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PostSubject: Re: Madeleine McCann case    Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:06 pm

A man in Manchester was arrested the other day after bragging to a Barrister at a party that he had been 'introduced' to little Madeleine McCann, apparently the Barrister broke down in tears when he related what he had been told about the man's meeting with Madeleine.
The Barrister and the Police find the man's story credible because of the man's nature.

I don't think we need to try and guess what this man's nature is or what the 'introduction' was for No 

My heart breaks for her to think that if she is alive...that she has been repeatedly abused and had her early innocent childhood robbed in the most sick, cruel and evil way hrb 

Some ppl will say she would be better off dead, I don't agree, with enough love and the correct care she will desperately need, she needs the rest of her childhood given back to her. It will be a very long process to return her back to a normal way of life.

I just hope that with all the publicity that if what the man has said is true, the girl he was 'introduced' to doesn't disappear, which is usually the case when a victim is seen to be too much of a risk by their captors No
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PostSubject: Re: Madeleine McCann case    Tue Oct 15, 2013 3:47 am

Crime watch BBC1 9pm is featuring this case.
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PostSubject: Re: Madeleine McCann case    Tue Oct 15, 2013 3:47 am

That's tonight (mon) 9pm
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PostSubject: Re: Madeleine McCann case    Tue Oct 15, 2013 7:20 am

You know I do believe there is some real color coming into focus with his case. I'm going to tell you a little story that hapened a few months ago.

Good friends of mine that are also clients commissioned me to construct a fence across their front yard out to the road. These frinds of mine have a daughter who of course is the light of their lives.She too is a dear friend.

The fence should have been easy and quick to put up because it is a pre fab. that meaning it came built in sections. But the sections were 8 feet long and 8 feet high so's of course the putting it togather required two people. But the arranged helper is a drunk and was too drunk to assist through-out the process of constructing the fence.

But it did get done without help.

And they were very pleased at the end result. And so it was time to choose a color to stain the fence .And so over dinner we discussed color. In the years I lived in the state of California I grew to admire deeply the California redwood trees.And redwood is a color of stain that offers numerous variations. I happened to have some samples of the variations of the color redwood along with some dark oak samples and some others.

Well the choice was red wood and they left it up to me to pick a variation and stain it.

Actually I liked dark oak too but red wood to was a bit of a fancy.
I picked a deep red redwood which isn't red like the color red but red like some of the bright red of the redwood tree at certain parts of the seasononal changes.

Well now this was early summer and right about now the color of choice is showing in the grand old redwood tress of California.
Yes indeed tis the season.

As you know inspector Redwood is working the case and somehow I feel certain that something will come to light soon that just might blow the case wide open.

We cannot trun the clock back or forword but what we can do is place hope inbetween those two time frames.
without hope it has been years but through hope it was just the other day.

Yes tis the season and all the trees are displaying multi color as the leaves begin to fall.But this season there is one particular color that interest's me most.

Yes Redwood.

Lets hope somewhere between the color of the stain and the person who is in the person of inspector locate whatever it is the color red wood has to yeild.

Does any of it make sense you might ask -but than again the way the case was handled to begin with is what makes no sense at all.
And that seems to be coming to light as a matter of fact.
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PostSubject: Re: Madeleine McCann case    Tue Oct 15, 2013 7:51 am

Thinking back on that fence as it was in the process of being pieced together -it was simple really -it had reached a point where it looked like it was almost done-what a relief ,those sides were heavy,lots of sweat and sore muscles.

But than I just had to notice that two sides or lengths of fence were reversed. There must be consistency. So I had to take apart those two sides and reposition them in order the maitain consistency.And that was harder than puting it up to begin with- actually twice the work.

Now than if you think about it,that is what is happening as the reopened investigation progress's. There are aspects in the orginal investigation that are out of place or inconsistent.

And so it is about realignment to the order of consistency.
Putting the pieces in the proper prospective.
Now when I pointed out to the clients that I have to reverse the two sides of fence, they said oh no ,not after all that work -who is to notice really,we think it looks fine. I pointed out that it may seem ok but it's not ,you asked me to do it because you want it done right. It will be done right.

And it was through slight rearrangement. Everything in it's proper place.

In the original investigation everything was not in it's proper place down investigative lines. But that stinking theory that former chief of detectives ,that woman hater just as nutso as his theory was ,they made those pieces in the most odd outragious kind of a way seem to fit together.

The case fell back as a cold case to the very areas those Portugal cops ruled out for reasons they never did put into a proper prospective-in other words none of it fit together.But the chief of detectives theory was laced together and most insidiously binded firm, politically of course.Politically meaning just that -the unbelivable foolishness in it spread to the lab's in England. Yes forensics ,which later proved to be junk science. Go figure right ?

No matter what Portugal authorities sent to England to be put under the microscope- because Portugal claimed they do not have the forensic technology of the rest of the free modern world ,you must recall that all evidence or potenital evidence was tampered with and grossly mishandled at the crime scene by those bumbling fumbling stupid cops sent to the scene by that sick twisted chief of detectives himself. Those cops were on a mission and it had nothing to do with catching the criminal.

And I dare say that is a case that need be opened up -blown open actually.

There were other problems to address in the construction of that fence -there was a section that connected to the house and the old gate that had long since fell out of alignment. In fact at that gate where two sides connected to form an L shape-one section going to the house the other out to the road.

And at that point is where the first obsticle was discovered. In order to make the fence perfectly aligned I had to alter that first fence post. And there was more to it than I thought. It was quite the task and required some creative thinking- the back yard fence was tied into that post as is the neighbors fence so the fence post could not be removed or realigned .

At that point in it everything was critical and there was no room what so ever for error.

In that point to fact in and of itself is the core of the issues at hand in the reopened case.

And I would venture to suspect when the case was reviewed with fresh eyes they went back to the very begining and located the point of error in the whole of the original investigation than found that nothing lined up properly from begining to the closing of the case.

I can only imagine how badly that fence will have turned out should that particular problem gone unoticed or turned out to be a gross oversite.

I can imagine the kinds of gross over sites and terrible errors and holes that have been found out as the case investigation proceeds.

But imagine is all we can do because very little of those details will be made public because of the politics involved.

In other words we may never know for sure how badly it was handled and why it was handled the way it was.

On the other hand the truth has it's ways of slipping out.

Now than ,in this assessment ,theory whatever it may be, I went back to the point where it began in the innicial investigation using as reference the begining of the construction of a fence where there was no room what so ever for error.

Now president Nixon once said after the watergate scandle was about to close in on him ,he said-,it's not the crime that gets you -,it's the cover up.

Well now, that twisted chief of detectives over there Portugal was dead bent on not letting the kidnapping get him or his record as a cop . Not only was there considerable political damage and finincial as the tourist industry is not all about small change.-,

But the investigation went down the flush at the begining because of the total incompetence of the local police and the gross negligence of the chief of detectives who supposedly has considerable credible experience .

Now than, with the glogal press cranking out details of the case ,making money all along the way ,and the president of the EU at that time was Portugal's president. And in the political spectrum on a global scale to those people in Portugal ,those politically connected ,big waves were being made that threatened grave consequences -they did not want and or need that kind of global public interests focused on Portugal- it did not reflect well on them or it.That is from a view point by those of authority in Portugal.

The McCanns were approched and advised to stay out of the public eye and to stop thier campaign to attract global attention and interest. They were instructed to wait in seclusion while the authorities of Portugal conduct their investigation. And the money through donations to help solve the crime to the authorities of Portugal became their worst nightmare.

Now, political pressure enters into the investigation. And that chief of detectives who supposedly has considerable creditable experience in high level investigations turns out to be a stark raving idiot who is married to the political process beowing to it and is deeply devoted .

And if he were not able to please them ,than his credability would end up being flushed down to tubes.

In this theory the crime scean was botched from the very begining ,everything at the scean of the crime was touched ,mishandled and contaminated thereby making anything that could later become tangable evidence or items that are curcumstancial collectively adding up to to prove a case -there forinsic-but oh, Portugal severly lacks in that area so it means nothing.

But it would have had not the crime scene been compromised.

In as much detail and time that chief of detectives profecting his crime theory making certain everything as insidious as it were put out there somehow in strange ways seem to FIT.

But in understanding how it seemed to fit one must ask ,isn't it possible that same cop went to as much time and effort to make certain the McCann's side in the issues at hand cannot possibly fit together because far too much is missing or out of Alingment ?

That is intentionaly out of alignment .

The wine- first it was 4 or five -than six or more than six became 12 or more according to that chief of detectives.

That is a cop who is known to beat confessions out of his victims -,any local on his turff of course will say what ever it is he wants to hear or suffer the consequences.

And that was a cop who had everything to lose. He did what was expected of him by those he served which has little to nothing to do with any greater good -which means he served the greedy.

And so in the bottom line of that dispicable cop who was once the chief of detectives after having been ousted out of his position he decides to capitalize on the case by writing a book. He figured the greedy he served all his life always get what they want so why shouldn't he make substantial financial gain just the same as they do.

Profiteering as a result of tragic happenings and human suffering has been going on forever and that piece of work decided to cash in on it.

Just have reviewed an article on the BBC the headline mentions that it is suspected that the kidnapping may have been pre planed.

That suspicion exists since the day the kidnap went down but up untill now there just wasn't enough there to support the theory.
In that theory it could very well be the booking agents with flappy mouths at the vacation travel agent where the McCann's booked the vacation package may very well have been a vibal source of information for the abductors.

That could indicate the abductors had lines into the travel agents bookings and time frames -say for example a frequent traveler or party that is looking fer the optimal setting in a vacation spot- the idea of the perfect get away secluded uty tastfully nice also includes the clientel or others vacationeers which help make the vacation a memorable experience  -say an inquiry about  bookings with touristers that have children of a certain age with the inquirer asking in reference to thier own children or children of their supposed vacation party.

Certainly a flappy mouthed travel agent would give up the information about time arrival and lenghth of stays and the whos that are staying and all the details that would be of interest to such an inquirer who reflects that of a spare no expense travel party or single family.Don't you see how two medical doctors of a vacation party with two children of a certain age would become a selling feature to an agent looking to book a vacation party with some big spenders. Make the big spenders appy and they throw you more business through their friends and neighbors associates and so fourth.

There is an old saying on the high seas- it goes this way-loose lips sink ships.

All of that information of course having been passed to the abductors in a matter of secounds, or the inquirers were the abductors.

That theory would tie into a child abduction ring.

If that's the case than that former chief of detectives was most likely on the abductors payroll.

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If than in theory of course the information about the MaCann vacation party's arrival and length of stay was passed on to the abductor/abductors and than further passed along to the abductors client/clients if say it turns out the abductors had ties to a child abduction ring ,than it would stand to reason the clients /client of the abductor/abductor would have been very eager to see a photograph of the child.

That could very well mean the McCann's were stalked befor it even came time for them to think about what to pack in their travel bags.

Travel arrangements are of course booked well in advance.

On the other hand it could have simply been a crime of oppertunity orchastrated by the perpatraitors on location although planed out in advance.

Somehow I keep thinking about a flappy mouthed travel agent looking to further along those asperiations of success-you know like that giant world class catch Putin was photographed holding up or standing next to -you know the big one ,the one that makes yer career.The one that distinguishe's one from all the others.That which is outstanding in every way. The lucky lotto ticket.
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PostSubject: Re: Madeleine McCann case    Wed Oct 16, 2013 12:27 am

The CrimeWatch programme was interesting...it does look like it was a planned abduction but what did puzzle me was the woman who was one of the ppl dining with the McCanns, she went to check on her own children when she saw a man walking away from the apartment block carrying a small child wearing pyjamas yet it seems she didn't think it was odd??

The McCanns particularly Gerry McCann was very lack in checking the children, he noticed that Madeleine's bedroom door was open further than his wife had left it but he didn't go right into the bedroom to see if Madeleine was awake.
Kate McCann went and checked next, she too noticed the door, she peered in, she couldn't clearly see in the dark but didn't go right in, as she started to close the door it slammed shut, she opened the door, went in and saw Madeleine wasn't in her bed, thinking that Madeleine may have got into their bed, she checked and no Madeleine, she went back to her daughter's room, saw the curtains billowing and realised the window was open and then she raised the alarm.

Now I have a question about that...if Madeleine's bedroom door was further open when Gerry McCann had checked and the window was open then, why wasn't the door moving or slammed shut with the strong breeze or wind whilst he was there or in the following hour when his wife went to check?
Was the abductor in Madeleine's room when Gerry McCann was there and made his escape through the window after Gerry McCann left?
and how would someone carry a sleeping or drugged child through a window? unless there was someone else there waiting outside to take the child?
It would also make the time that Madeleine was abducted a little after 8.15pm not 9.15pm when the alarm was raised and that's if the McCanns are telling the truth that they checked every hour on the dot.

To me Kate McCann shows genuine anguish at her daughter's abduction but her husband is very precise, and matter of fact but strikes me as a bit cold, it wouldn't surprise me if he was vocally and/or physically agressive with his wife and children and the way his wife keeps looking at him during interviews...it looks like she's nervous of him.

Lets hope that all the phone calls CrimeWatch received after showing the e-fit pictures of men described hanging around the apartment block brings some positive results.
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PostSubject: Re: Madeleine McCann case    Wed Oct 16, 2013 3:20 am

well summarised LG.



Is a little like the Lindy and the Australian dog case in the 70's ?


More Questions.


why were all these people jumping up - surely one at a time to check on all the children.


But is there proof that Maddie was in bed asleep before they went out - NO.
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